Originally posted by guitarplayer
The sabath was and is saturday. Not sun-day. The sun-day resurection was insituted by Constitine to gain all the sun worshipers.
Okay clearly you're not interested in rational discussion, but wallowing in ignorance. That's fine; the good news is, it's going to pass, you're
going to be fine; we just need to burn down the phoney world within which you've unintentionally imprisoned your mind.
The "carnal" sabbath is of course the 7th day, the last day of the week; and no one has said otherwise (so why are you even talking about it?) we
were talking about the fulfillment of the DAY OF FIRSTFRUITS in the resurrection timing of Jesus- which despite your ignorant claim- WAS the day, and
it occured AFTER the sabbath:
Le 23:10 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest
thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest
unto the priest:
11 And he shall wave the sheaf before the LORD, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath
the priest shall wave it.
And this is why Jesus is called:
1Co 15:20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits
of them that slept.
1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits
; afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming.
And this is why this occured WHEN IT DID just like this is why the crucifixion occurred when it did- specifically on PASSOVER, and this is why the
baptism of fire/holy spirit occurred specifically when it did on PENTECOST.
Mt 28:1 In the end of the sabbath
, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week
, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see
Mr 16:9 Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week
Now, some "Judaizer" has come along and convinced you to believe that this means the "sabbath" when it clearly doesn't. And the reason he has
done this is no doubt to get you to "rest on the carnal 7th day of the carnal week" like the Jews do, or else you aren't a Christian. And what he
has done is caused you to "eat from the forbidden tree" (which is an analogue of THE LAW which WORKS OF THE LAW (fruit analogue) brings DEATH). The
carnal sabbath is JUST A SHADOW of the TRUE SABBATH/REST found IN GRACE whereby one CEASES FROM WORKS OF THE LAW which are profitless for
Also I'll point out the obvious that there is no possible way for you to know when the carnal sabbath actually takes place
. You have no idea
whatsoever if somewhere along the line the last day of the week
got switched around by someone- intentionally or not. That is to say, the day
we call "saturday" may not even have been the same "7th day" the was once the "last day" of the week for the Israelites under the old covenant.
So good luck with all that nonsense and go "Judaize" in some other thread.
Originally posted by guitarplayer
reply to post by MrCobb
The bride is the new jerusalem. Give me a scripture that says that the body of Christ is the bride.
Yes, the bride is indeed New Jerusalem. That doesn't mean that the bride is ONLY CALLED NEW JERUSALEM you buffoon. That's like saying Jesus can't
be the Son of God because He's the Messiah. "Wait! If Jesus is the Messiah- then who is the King of Israel?!" Crimeny- I KNOW you are capable of
better thinking than this; stop degrading yourself to such an embarassing extreme. So who is the BRIDE?
2Co 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to
Well, who is Paul talking to? Christians? What is he doing? Espousing them to one husband? Who's getting married? Christians? Whose the bride?
Jer 2:32 Can a maid forget her ornaments, or a bride
her attire? yet my people
have forgotten me days without number.
Re 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
And what is NEW JERUSALEM? A city? With what foundation?
Rev 21:14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations
, and in them the names of the twelve apostles
of the Lamb.
Sound familiar? To you, probably not; to me, yes:
Eph 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles
and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
Getting through the haze of ingorance yet? So you tell me, who is the bride