Woman Arrested For Facebook Obama Post

Originally posted by HIWATT
Regardless of what she says, she has the right to say it. From what I saw there was no direct threat against anyone.

"hoping" for someone to die does not = threat

Also I hope she sues the pants of her former employers for firing her over this, and wins.

What she says away from work is her own business

right...and all of those people that said abortion doctors should die, didn't lead to those doctors getting shot either. please accept the invitation to join the real world

reply to post by Dondylion


There is an old (street term) that I believe applies to her.

STUCK ON STUPID!

She truly is (stuck on stupid); and I suspect she may do time in jail.

reply to post by polarwarrior


And the right were saying during the campaign "it has nothing to do with him being black"

Riiight.

Correct me if I'm indeed wrong, but isn't Obama half "white," which is constantly overlooked...maybe because his features appear more "black" than white? I never understood his title as the first "black president."

edit on 11-11-2012 by elrem48 because: (no reason given)

why the hell does her bosses think they have a right to sack her for something in her personal life?.
that is well out of their remit and is nothing to do with them, i hope she sues them for wrongful dismissal.

reply to post by GoldenRuled


You threaten the President, regardless of his party affiliation, and you deserve whatever you get.

No excuses.

The more people who make such comments, the more restrictions they place on the rest of us. It's ok to disagree with the President as long as you don't make threats.

reply to post by polarwarrior


Racism?

She didn't call him racial slurs.

She mentioned the word "assassination" in the same sentence as the President.

That's a felony, regardless of how you feel about someone's skin color.

People are still sensitive about that, especially after the assassination of JFK and attempted assassination of Ronald Reagan not that far back.

Reminds me of one of my threads a bit ago.

Yep, the Secret Service takes this stuff seriously. Not exactly a joke, was it? People need to realize there are very real consequences for their words and actions.

reply to post by The X


Hello?

Did the point fly over your head or something?

No company would be wise to be associated with a person who made comments like that. Word gets around pretty fast these days. They couldn't risk a PR disaster and with good reason.

In RL we can make private comments to friends and they understand what we mean and the government doesn't come knocking at our door. But on the internet there're very few places anymore where it's PRIVATE. You can't say anything anywhere without somebody recording your conversation and using it later. They're not your friends and won't understand where you're coming from.

There should be some laws about privacy. Of course, if she posted this comment in a public section, she deserves the consequences. But I think that there needs to be privacy on the internet.

I'm going to make a prediction. It's this.... We will have thought reading software and hardware in the future that will be in place in public places to detect criminals and other malcontents. The reason that thought reading software won't breach privacy laws is because there will be none. People will no longer think adverse thoughts and will no longer think in separate terms. So the idea that their thoughts are broadcast to others will not bother them. If they could see this world - the one we live in right now - they would think we're savage and divided. They would wonder how our society even functions since there's so much adversity. They'll just assume that's the way history always is.

Our mental and even social freedoms will be coming to an end and we'll go along with it. We'll go along with it because we'll think ti's better, safer and more responsible.

Originally posted by VaterOrlaag The more people who make such comments, the more restrictions they place on the rest of us.

completely untrue. the more people are unable to express their opinions without fear of the law trying to crush them for their insolence (in having their own opinion), then the more restricted we become.

Originally posted by flexy123
I "like" how she called him (or anyone else for that matter) a n***r IN PUBLIC - then adding that she'd like to see him assassinated - and is entirely perplexed why people call her "racist". Just wow... this doesn't really have to do with free speech.

If this was against free speech, millions of people would have been already arrested and sites been shut down..because there was certainly a LOT of heated debates going on especially in the last week. But calling someone a n*** and then making such a statement as well goes beyond free speech, IMO.

edit on 10-11-2012 by flexy123 because: (no reason given)

Free speech is to protect all speech, especially when someone uses racial epithets like that. If we go around and start restricting free speech, whose to say less offensive speech wouldn't get censored? Next thing you know, we won't be able to even use words like "black" or "Muslim."

Facebook's TOS on the other hand, probably says something about racist language. Does it go beyond the limits of the TOS? Absolutely. Free speech? No.

reply to post by GoldenRuled


This wasn't about race, but about assassination. I mean seriously, if you guys can't see that then you probably shouldn't be posting. (And I'm an avid anti-Obama poster.)

It seems like a lot of you have missed the post with Facebook's T&C, so it deserves to be posted again.

Safety We do our best to keep Facebook safe, but we cannot guarantee it. We need your help to keep Facebook safe, which includes the following commitments by you: You will not post unauthorized commercial communications (such as spam) on Facebook. You will not collect users' content or information, or otherwise access Facebook, using automated means (such as harvesting bots, robots, spiders, or scrapers) without our prior permission. You will not engage in unlawful multi-level marketing, such as a pyramid scheme, on Facebook. You will not upload viruses or other malicious code. You will not solicit login information or access an account belonging to someone else. You will not bully, intimidate, or harass any user. You will not post content that: is hate speech, threatening, or pornographic; incites violence; or contains nudity or graphic or gratuitous violence. You will not develop or operate a third-party application containing alcohol-related, dating or other mature content (including advertisements) without appropriate age-based restrictions. You will follow our Promotions Guidelines and all applicable laws if you publicize or offer any contest, giveaway, or sweepstakes (“promotion”) on Facebook. You will not use Facebook to do anything unlawful, misleading, malicious, or discriminatory. You will not do anything that could disable, overburden, or impair the proper working or appearance of Facebook, such as a denial of service attack or interference with page rendering or other Facebook functionality. You will not facilitate or encourage any violations of this Statement or our policies.

Her post broke Facebook's T&C, something she agreed to abide by when signing up for Facebook. Free speech does not apply in this situation.

reply to post by RoScoLaz


So you think it's ok for people to openly say that the President should be assassinated, all in the name of "free speech"?

All I see is a bunch of people with a juvenile mindset of "He's a dem! He's a liberal! He must dieeee!!!"

reply to post by Jerk_Idiot


You hit the nail on the head!! Thank you for saying that!

Sheeite! Evah since Kennedy its been a bad place to go verbally.......what was she thinking.....?
But hopes are not threats, so whats to arrest?

Originally posted by VaterOrlaag
reply to post by polarwarrior

 

Racism?

She didn't call him racial slurs.

Actually, quite the opposite. The beginning of her post started as "Another 4 years of the N****r." If that isn't a racial slur, I don't know what is.

Ok, so where was all of this outrage when Bush was being threatened to an even greater, more public degree? I'm no Bush fan, but ...
Death Threats Against Bush

she is an idiot, saying something like that to your friends is one thing..what she did was post it somewhere millions can see it and it never can be taken back..pure stupid..just cuz you can doesnt mean you should..facebook and twitter can lick me

reply to post by Jerk_Idiot

Oh. Really?

Teen Questioned Over Online Threats Against President Bush