Over 200,000 Votes Not Counted in Florida Alone..., page 2

Originally posted by YourWIFI
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Really? Your habit of capitalizing random words is particularly annoying and does nothing to get your point across. It just makes you seem like that loud guy from the Dilbert comic strip.

If you've never in your life seen such whining and blaming then you must be around 11 or 12 years old. Otherwise you would recall the whining when Bush defeated Gore and recounts were called by Gore.

Bush v. Gore

reply to post by ElectricUniverse

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Actually it does not matter because Romney conceded the state to Obama. At that point there was no longer a need to continue the counts to determine who actually won it. Even an outcome giving the state to Romney would not have affected the result of the election.

The end of the counting occurred because of Romney.

As far as the comment about people who voted for Obama getting what they deserve I could not agree more. There are 2 great ironies in life...

Not getting what you want....

And getting exactly what you asked for.

reply to post by 0zzymand0s

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I live in AZ, and I have sent a snail-mail letter, email and left a VM for the AG demanding they properly count all votes.

It's cool that you are energized to insist that all votes will be counted.

Your concern is, however, misplaced. There was NEVER ANY QUESTION that these votes would be counted. None. They have until the 16th to complete the count, and the final results will be certified on December 3.

There are still enough votes outstanding that Obama might win Arizona (or at least there were last time I check). And while is it possible, it is, given the statistics of the polling day results, very unlikely.

On the other hand, there are definitely enough outstanding uncounted votes to change the election night position of two House seats. Sinema looks to be widening her lead, but Barber has, at least for now, overhauled McSally.

Joe still looks wobbly too.

reply to post by Xcathdra

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Since then we have a few states who use a proportional electoral college system, splitting their electoral amounts between the candidates based on the percentage of population they carried in that state.

I don't think that is true. Do you have evidence?

The proposal does come up occasionally. Republicans in Ohio raised it just the other day. But I am quite sure that no one has implemented it yet.

reply to post by Xcathdra

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Actually it does not matter because Romney conceded the state to Obama. At that point there was no longer a need to continue the counts to determine who actually won it. Even an outcome giving the state to Romney would not have affected the result of the election.

That is completely wrong. 100% wrong. Impossibly wrong.

Concession has nothing to do with the requirement to count all the votes. The election isn't over until ALL the votes are counted and the tally certified. Period.

Many candidates have conceded only to be declared the winner at the completion of the count.

reply to post by rnaa

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My concern is that people focus to much on the presidential in years like this. I want to see all votes counted for precisely the reasons you outlined. While I would get tremendous amusement from watching Arizona turn blue, I have a feeling that I'll get their faster if I hold my own breath until I pass out. It's all the little races that count the most anyway.

Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
reply to post by shockedonlooker

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I still have contacts with some friends I have made who are in the military, some of them still serving in Afghanistan, and we get in contact from time to time.

The mayority of them would not have voted for Obama, and I wonder how many votes from our military personnel are missing...

BTW, to the member who asked if Florida has the 90+ votes romney needs... AGAIN, this is happening in SEVERAL states...

According to my girlfriend, who was listening to the news in Spanish, Obama announced that the economy was going for the worse... He comes to say it now, AFTER the election, so Obama's fans would vote for him again thinking he did a miracle with the economy... If only Obama's fans knew ANYTHING about economics...

edit on 10-11-2012 by ElectricUniverse because: (no reason given)

Pssst. The election is over. It was last week. Time to move on and do something more positive and rewarding with your time. You seem to love politics maybe you can make an impact at the local or state level. Unless you are employed as a political analyst second guessing the election is a waste of time.

reply to post by EllaMarina

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According to this news of so many uncounted votes (assuming it's true), it looks like they just gave up on whatever was taking them so long... and left it vastly unfinished.

What state is 'giving up'?

Arizona? They are still counting and will count every single one. They have until 16 November to finish according to Arizona law.

Florida? They have counted every vote and are now finished, except for any recounts that may be required.

I really don't understand what you folks are complaining about. These provisional votes require manual handling to validate and count. This is a slow process. Arizona needs to clean up its act to reduce the number of provisional votes in the future, but that will not stop them from counting every single vote in this election.

No state can just 'give up' counting ballots. It is the most fundamental rule in our democratic system. EVERY vote is counted BECAUSE EVERY vote counts. Any State SOS or County Election board that 'gives up' because its too hard is incompetent and should be thrown out of office for malfeasance. And every one of them knows that.

I have worked in the counting room at elections in Pima County Arizona (a few years ago now). Believe me, every person involved is very serious about getting it right.

The saying about "doing it right is more important than doing it fast" is exactly descriptive of the atmosphere in the counting room. I remember several times stopping the count to wait for a scrutineer from one of the parties or the other to watch while some issue is resolved with a punch card deck (you know, hanging chads and all that? - we knew how to fix those cleanly in Pima County, I don't know what Florida's problem was). The media might complain, but that was their problem not ours.

reply to post by FreebirdGirl

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Pssst. The election is over. It was last week.

I appreciate the thrust of your post.

However, to be exact, the election isn't over until all the votes are counted and the results are legally certified.

In Arizona, the counties have until November 16 to finish the count and the certification conference is scheduled to take place on December 3. This is according to Arizona State law. Other states will probably have slightly different deadlines according to their own laws.

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