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I was not a fan of Occupy Wall Street this is the type of stuff they should have been doing . Not trashing public parks and all that crap
Originally posted by ldyserenity
reply to post by knightrider078
Looks like they're getting something done now.
First it was anger and civil disobedience now they're using their intellect to beat the system...so now why you crying? Is it because you begrudge them for being smarter than you? or is it that now you have nothing to pick on them about?
ETA: Whaaaaa Occupy is starting to make sense, Whaaaaaa I can't find anything to pick at whaaaaaaedit on 10-11-2012 by ldyserenity because: lol add
Originally posted by hawkiye
reply to post by randomtangentsrme
you didn't read my link did you... Please read and learn or at least listen to this www.freedomsphoenix.com...
Originally posted by phroziac
Originally posted by randomtangentsrme
Awesome. Another way for people who were not responsible with money to be rewarded for their ineptitude.
When I was growing up, you got rewarded for doing things correctly.
Hey world, where's my bailout for having no public debt, and deciding to live within my means?
Yeah, all debts are valid right? Banks never do any wrong. and me not doing anything about a bill i got for something i never owed makes it all my fault, right? And its ok when a bank charges you a late fee that puts you over your limit and then charges you an over limit fee right?
Originally posted by randomtangentsrme
reply to post by cornucopia
Why? Because I cannot afford to. I work in the arts.
A good year for me is $30,000. An average year is $20,000. My best year has been $50,000. I live in California, so this is not a lot of money.
So again I ask, why reward those who were not responsible with their money?
Originally posted by ripcontrol
reply to post by randomtangentsrme
I respectfully disagree...
If private citizens want to aid someone with cash it is there business... It is not that bad an idea either...
all the loans were bad and should not have been made
people did buy more then they could afford... the reckless spending and bad planning should not be encouraged...
However the communities should come together and help each other... it is a good idea to save america and help our fellow americans
Originally posted by TKDRL
reply to post by randomtangentsrme
I pity you. You are exactly what I used to be. I hope you do not have to go through what I did to learn how wrong you are. I really mean that. Losing all you worked for years of working, 10-12 hours a day 5-7 days a week, for years, and getting all that snatched from you...... It is a really nasty feeling, I do not wish on my worst enemies. But it might be a lesson that you can only learn by living it. Empathy seems to be gone these days.edit on Sat, 10 Nov 2012 20:22:59 -0600 by TKDRL because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by dubiousone
Originally posted by randomtangentsrme
reply to post by cornucopia
Why? Because I cannot afford to. I work in the arts.
A good year for me is $30,000. An average year is $20,000. My best year has been $50,000. I live in California, so this is not a lot of money.
So again I ask, why reward those who were not responsible with their money?
Are you saying "misery loves company"?
Why is what the OP describes more offensive to you than the practice of selling these charged off debts to opportunistic bottom feeding debt buyers who then go out and multiply the misery of your fellow citizens who "owe" those debts? These debt buyer parasites feed off of others' misfortune. They add nothing to the economy. They impair the debtors' ability to contribute to the economy by taking away money which could be better used in the stream of commerce (buying stuff), supporting themselves and their family and friends. Time is lost and anguish is inflicted by the parasites' demands for payment in full with interest, penalties, lawyer fees, and more, by those who only paid pennies on the dollar. This onslaught of misery destroys peace of mind, increases distress, destroys relationships, increases family disharmony, divorce, and is a factor leading some to suicide.edit on 11/10/2012 by dubiousone because: Toned down the rant.
Originally posted by randomtangentsrme
Originally posted by dubiousone
Originally posted by randomtangentsrme
reply to post by cornucopia
Why? Because I cannot afford to. I work in the arts.
A good year for me is $30,000. An average year is $20,000. My best year has been $50,000. I live in California, so this is not a lot of money.
So again I ask, why reward those who were not responsible with their money?
Are you saying "misery loves company"?
Why is what the OP describes more offensive to you than the practice of selling these charged off debts to opportunistic bottom feeding debt buyers who then go out and multiply the misery of your fellow citizens who "owe" those debts? These debt buyer parasites feed off of others' misfortune. They add nothing to the economy. They impair the debtors' ability to contribute to the economy by taking away money which could be better used in the stream of commerce (buying stuff), supporting themselves and their family and friends. Time is lost and anguish is inflicted by the parasites' demands for payment in full with interest, penalties, lawyer fees, and more, by those who only paid pennies on the dollar. This onslaught of misery destroys peace of mind, increases distress, destroys relationships, increases family disharmony, divorce, and is a factor leading some to suicide.edit on 11/10/2012 by dubiousone because: Toned down the rant.
You are absolutely correct in what you describe.
However, some people choose to put themselves in debt. I cannot feel sympathy for someone who spends and spends, and then cries help me. That is what I find (as you put it) offensive.
Originally posted by dubiousone
It is an act of pure nonjudgmental good will. It is an example which more should follow.
Originally posted by randomtangentsrme
A few people have made the point of private citizens can do what they wish with their own funds. And you are all correct.
I thought about this thread all day today at work. And I do see the positive of this idea. However, I still am concerned about the ramifications resulting from rewarding those that have done nothing to earn it.
Originally posted by randomtangentsrme
reply to post by jude11
Yes I do remember them. How did I bail them out?
I understand taxes went to them, yes possibly taxes I contributed, went to them. But I had no direct or final say about that.
If it's truly bailing out the 99% Send me my check too, and I'll support this movement. Until then, I'll continue to count my pennies so I can actually afford to be generous with the portion of my income the government lets me keep.
Originally posted by slayer420
reply to post by randomtangentsrme
In a world of excess this is what we're left with...
This little gambit while admirable on a moral level is ultimately futile. So long as it is still so profitable to hand out these bad loans they will continue to do so.