Don't get misdirected in the Saville investigation

Jimmy Saville was straight and not a Mason. He was also not a boy scout leader, a teacher or a priest. I have been following the Saville case and am saddened to watch it lose track. There is another thread on ATS about the situation in England and it has two videos. The first is of the people investigating. In it one of the investigators is asked if the person being interviewed is concerned that people in power may have hurt the investigation in the past, he responds by saying that he thinks people may have had undue influence and they should be asked if they were Masons. He did this because there have been major scandals in England involving police and judges where all types of cases were tampered with. He was NOT implying that all Masons are pedophiles.

The second video has someone interviewing David Cameron their Prime Minister. Mr. Cameron talks about how they are really serious about finding out what was going on. Mr. Cameron then says that he doesn't want a witch hunt. The interviewer gives him a list of names and the news now is about if the should have given the list on television or not. Mr Cameron says that they don't want a witch hunt going after any people because they are gay. That is not what this is about. Mr. Saville was not gay, he was not a Mason, he was suspected and investigated and nothing happened.

Nearly everyone on UK paedophile ring list is a Freemason says abuse victim,

The line of investigation to follow has to be Mr. Saville himself. This is the same way all the other investigations were derailed. What Mr. Cameron is attempting to do is have so many different investigations going on that it looks exactly like a witch hunt, the next step will be to find out that one of the investigations went overboard or made things up to discredit all of the investigations. What they are attempting to do is muddy the water down the road, they will get a Gary Glitter, some dead politician, one or two living, high profile people; but, the trail to follow is the politicians and members of the royal family that were close to Mr. Saville.

Mr. Saville was not supplying children to the gay network, though some were gay. He was not supplying the Masons, though some were Masons. He was supplying the rich and powerful, the was not supplying the average person and the only person to be arrested so far was known pedophile Gary Glitter. That was the first attempt to confuse the public. When every group is expendable then it has to go pretty high.

Why do three investigations into what the BBC knew at the same time that you are investigating the over 300 witnesses against Saville. You put the best on the Saville case and do the BBC investigation later, why allow the pedophiles to continue longer?

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Oh, and one newspaper, The Guardian, had this article.

Jimmy Savile invited guests to royal party on Prince Charles's behalf TV executive says colleagues thought it was 'weird' that Savile was involved in organising royal engagements

And where does the best article come from, it comes from a sensationalist newspaper. The Daily Star - TORY PAEDO COVER-UP

Read the article and remember that in England you can be sued for libel pretty easily as long as the person is still alive. The policeman who had been involved in investigating a pedophile ring within the Thatcher government was told stop looking if he wanted to keep his job. This is about people in power and they will through other groups under the bus to protect themselves.

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The most important charges right now are by a Mr Messham. Mr. Messham was part of a prior investigation into pedophiles in power that exposed things going on in the care homes for minors. He specifically states that what happened involved a senior politician; but, he doesn't name names except to the police. So then we have Lord McAlpine come out saying that he is not a pedophile and that he never owned a Rolls, had never been to the school and blah, blah, blah. Well, Mr Messham never said it was him so why is he making all this noise about being innocent. In fact, Mr. Messham immediately came out and guarenteed that the person who abused him was not McAlpine.

This is just an attempt to misdirect, an attempt to discredit the whole thing.

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The approach that is being used is almost identical to what happened in England during the 1990s when they were investigating this ring. Fortunately, the same reporter that exposed Murdoch's phone hacking scandal is pushing this investigation. This article from the Daily Beast lays out how the original investigation got twisted around and it is being done again, in the same way. Alleged Pedophile Ring: Connections to Senior Public Figures Mount

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We now know more about Mr. Messham and he is a very unreliable witness. The one person they chose to be the front face for the kids who were abused is one of the least reliable. They have over 300 separate accusations and that doesn't include the ones made by Mr. Savile's friends and acquaintances.