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posted on Nov, 12 2012 @ 12:34 AM
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Originally posted by SplitInfinity
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Hawk...it is up to the person who made the claims of success to PROVE they accomplished this feat. It isn't the responsibility of those who are asking for proof to provide proof that they have proof that it is fake.

WOW! THAT was a tongue twister! LOL!

Split Infinity



For the 3rd and final time the proof has been posted many times it does not need to be posted again every time some fool makes a drive by fraud claim. Do a search here on the e-cat and start reading.




posted on Nov, 12 2012 @ 12:38 AM
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Originally posted by hawkiye

Originally posted by SplitInfinity
reply to post by hawkiye
 


Hawk...it is up to the person who made the claims of success to PROVE they accomplished this feat. It isn't the responsibility of those who are asking for proof to provide proof that they have proof that it is fake.

WOW! THAT was a tongue twister! LOL!

Split Infinity



For the 3rd and final time the proof has been posted many times it does not need to be posted again every time some fool makes a drive by fraud claim. Do a search here on the e-cat and start reading.


Yet you can't link to any of it. Much like Rossi. You make claims, provide no proof your claims are right, and then no one can refute what you say. There are no posts with ANY proof, there is no proof, anywhere, it does not exist except in your mind. Show me ONE piece of proof or stop saying it exists as you are spreading ignorance.

ETA: Rossi claims to have made sales, yet says he can not reveal who.

He claims independent scientists have verified his device, but oh wait he can't say who they were because it was a military contract.

ETA2: From one of the posts you suggested I check out.

He has stated multiple times he will not take any money until the finished product is tested by the customer and they are satisfied


And he isn't taking investors...if a customer meets certain criteria, he makes the product for them and they pay no money until it is tested "by the customer in any way they see fit"...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

That's funny because here we have Rossi with NO WORKING PRODUCT yet and ....

The first folks to put up money for the Andrea Rossi E-Cat are the territorial distributors. Whatever any of us might think, these folks have the wherewithal and fortitude to get in for the business future.

He is already taking investors money. Very odd indeed how things change in one year.
oilprice.com...
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posted on Nov, 12 2012 @ 12:41 AM
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O.R. is right. There is no proof available. Post at least a page. Split Infinity



posted on Nov, 12 2012 @ 12:48 AM
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posted on Nov, 12 2012 @ 12:50 AM
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Uhhh...Lazy What? We ARE getting very emotional are we not? There is no proof available and the links either do not work or do not exist. List a website. What you have listed is useless.

Split Infinity



posted on Nov, 12 2012 @ 12:51 AM
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Originally posted by hawkiye
I am not going to do it for ever every fool that makes a stupid claim.


You are talking about Rossi here....



posted on Nov, 12 2012 @ 12:56 AM
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Originally posted by hawkiye

Originally posted by SplitInfinity
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O.R. is right. There is no proof available. Post at least a page. Split Infinity


No hes not right he has never been right on the e-cat! Get off your lazy ass and do your own homework I am not going to do it for ever every fool that makes a stupid claim.


Haha just like Rossi. I will not provide proof get off your lazy ass and provide your own proof my e-Cat works!

Hey! Did you know Rossi is a magician?


Andrea Rossi
June 1st, 2012 at 2:32 PM
Dear Hank Mills:
We are making extremely important tests and we will have important news soon. Not this week, though. We are still resolving problems. We are working very hard, even if the earthquake made us lose some time. Nevertheless, we are working. The tests are in course and they are very important.
Warm Regards,
A.R.

Rossi is using the earthquake in Italy as an excuse for the delay in his report.


Then.


Andrea Rossi
June 6th, 2012 at 8:22 AM
Dear Gillana:
I said we are going to give important information regarding the high temperature reactors, but not this week. We are completing our tests: matter of a couple of weeks.
The earthquake did not stop our work, luckily. We continued to work.
Warm Regards,
A.R.

Rossi is here implying that the earthquake which he claims mildly hit his factory in Bologna did not stop the work on the testing of the e-cat. So why hasn’t he produced the report, as promised? It is clear that he is also saying that the testing on the 600 degree e-cat is taking place at his factory in Bologna.

Please remember that in all of the above statements Rossi is clearly saying that the testing of the 600 degree e-cat is taking place in Bologna, Italy.


Finally! MAGIC!


Just this, on May 5, 2012 and again on May 19, 2012, Rossi clearly is claiming to be testing the same 600 degree e-cat in Miami, Florida! Check the dates on all of the messages.

Andrea Rossi
May 5th, 2012 at 8:38 AM
Dear Dr Joseph Fine:
I agree.
It’s Saturday, but today and tomorrow we will work 24 hours a day on the reactor we have made here in the USA: we have stabilized it at very high temperatures…and when I say very high I mean it. We understood the reason of the instability, so now the work is going on hard.
Warmest Regards,
A.R.


Rossi and his eCat can be in Florida and Bologna at the EXACT same time! Now that is a trick I would pay to see.


shutdownrossi.com...
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posted on Nov, 12 2012 @ 12:59 AM
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Oh hey I keep losing track of who Rossi has sold his products to, was it SPAWAR? No that's right it was National Instruments. Oh wait, I forgot, he claimed BOTH of them were customers and he was found out to be a liar on both occasions.

ETA: Now that we are all in agreement Rossi is a fraud let's get back on topic .. for what also appears at face value to be fraudulent. Like Rossi, I will give them a chance to prove their claims, but with no proof, we are left with only one option.
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posted on Nov, 12 2012 @ 01:01 AM
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You can always tell when something is not right as a person starts getting upset and starts to personally attack another just because they asked for PROOF!

Damn them! Those Bastards! They had the GALL to ask for PROOF!

May I have some more sir? Oliver Twist of this Topic! LOL!

Split Infinity



posted on Nov, 12 2012 @ 01:03 AM
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Well, I feel sad for people like that. They are so invested in their beliefs they refuse to admit they are wrong, yet deep down they know they are wrong, so they refuse to provide the evidence they claim exists because looking for that evidence will shatter their world. I will pray for him/her, I hope that once they get over this they will be stronger and less willing to buy into such shady people.



posted on Nov, 12 2012 @ 01:10 AM
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You are far to forgiving O.R. LOL!

Draw and Quarter I say! LOL!

Split Infinity



posted on Nov, 12 2012 @ 01:36 AM
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Originally posted by SplitInfinity
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You are far to forgiving O.R. LOL!

Draw and Quarter I say! LOL!

Split Infinity



What can I say I have a lot of empathy and patience, it's why I work with dementia patients
So you can see, I have a lot of practice in "crazy", why I can survive ATS.



posted on Nov, 12 2012 @ 01:48 AM
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We have something in common. I work in the Music Industry so if you want to talk about demented individuals who are off the deep end we should talk! LOL! Split Infinity



posted on Nov, 12 2012 @ 01:51 AM
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Originally posted by SplitInfinity
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We have something in common. I work in the Music Industry so if you want to talk about demented individuals who are off the deep end we should talk! LOL! Split Infinity



You just get them earlier than me. They start with you, and end with me



posted on Nov, 12 2012 @ 01:59 AM
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LOL! Good One! I do not understand why the person here telling me I am lazy will not direct us to some proof. Actually that is not true. I know why they will not...they can't. Split Infinity



posted on Nov, 12 2012 @ 02:43 AM
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Occam's Razor. Either they can and there is some weird convoluted reason they won't, or they can't. I am also betting on can't.



posted on Nov, 12 2012 @ 03:14 AM
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They can't because it will not work and there is no proof that it will. Split Infinity



posted on Nov, 12 2012 @ 10:29 PM
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Originally posted by SplitInfinity
reply to post by OccamsRazor04
 

They can't because it will not work and there is no proof that it will. Split Infinity


You cannot make the statement that it will not work based on the evidence that has been made public. It appears that there is enough interest in the ECat to say that there may be something to it.



posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 07:58 PM
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Again...the ONUS is upon those who claim this will work NOT THOSE WHO STATE IT WILL NOT.
Split Infinity



posted on Nov, 13 2012 @ 10:21 PM
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Originally posted by SplitInfinity
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Again...the ONUS is upon those who claim this will work NOT THOSE WHO STATE IT WILL NOT.
Split Infinity



Then wouldn't the onus also be on you to show fraud when you make such a claim? There is not enough evidence to claim either success or failure. It appears to have worked but there is no third party confirmation. There is also no evidence of outright fraud. No one has discovered a secret wire providing power from a hidden source. No one has proposed a chemical reaction capable of providing the amount of power that seemed to be generated.





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