posted on Nov, 15 2012 @ 08:13 AM
Originally posted by DarkSecret
Originally posted by justinsweatt
Hmm, I also noticed that you said "welfare moms" and things of that nature. So let me ask you this: Are you a eugenicist, racist like Margaret
Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood? Why is it that Planned Parenthood, those PP clinics that perform abortions, are still predominantly in
minority and poor neighborhoods? Could it be that people like you think that you're better than those people and that they're a drag on society? You
obviously have no regard for innocent children in a drone campaign, how could I possibly be expected to think you would value the life of a poor
African American or Latino child in America. Are you pissed you have to pay welfare? Would killing off a few give you more money to spend on Apple
products instead of on a human life?
Nope I'm no racist. I simply stated that it's more cost effective to educate women to be able to plan their offspring at a point in their lives
where they can afford it, no matter what their race is. And of course that means some might need to have an abortion if they choose to and avoid
becoming very young mothers. They get the extra time to finish their education, get a decent job and THEN have offspring. And we don't need to pay
for welfare since the moms could afford a planned child as opposed to an unexpected one. Not hard to understand hopefully.
As for the children of the third world - I'm neither for nor against them. I couldn't care less how those countries deal with famine or family
planning. However in the middle east and some other places where they just HATE the US they also have no regard for their own children. Many nations
have child soldiers and the such. So if they are going to hate us and attack us then why bother sparing their lives? They would behead you or any of
us without a second thought if they had a chance. I advocate for drone strikes, as precise as possible, against those that train & encourage actions
against the US. I want drones rather than soldiers on the ground because soldiers are targets. And when one of our soldiers gets taken out by a
roadside bomb, lots of their own children and women are also killed.
So don't give me that high road or pretend you didn't get my point. Keep troops home, send drones when needed. Have abortions and contraceptives for
women who want them and help women plan for babies that they can afford rather than forcing them to have babies (because abortion/family planning in
Red states is unavailable or hardly available) -- babies & moms which will become forced welfare recipients.
1. It's so obvious that you are clearly UNABLE to comprehend the original point I was making. I actually posted hard data that shows that Obama has
proven to be pretty ineffective in the Women's rights arena and not the peson that the media and other talking heads opine him to be. Again, you
would understand that if you could step away from your MSNBC party talking points. It's sad. I was never in favor of limiting access to care and I
didn't need an OBGYN lesson, nor was I arguing that it would fiscally responsible to cut those services. Ever. Not once in the arguments I was
proposing above did I mention that would be the way to go. Frankly, you're a guy. I don't think we need anymore guys puffing out their chest from
the mountain pretending that they know ANYTHING about women's health. So sit down and zip up.
2. Don't give you the high road? I'm not going to apologize for being a principled person who doesn't believe in mass murder or blanket killing
without due process or a just cause. I know that's hard for the O-bots drunk on the hope-gnosis. You're totally okay with it since all of you try
to justify the killing of an unarmed 16 year old American citizen who's only crime was that he had a accused terrorist as a father and liked to read
Harry Potter books. Don't act all high and mighty with me by thinking that not valuing human life is a good thing. Shame on you. That's
3. How can you not be for the children of the third world? What kind of dumbass stance is that? This Democrat party line that you tow that is filled
with Islamophobia and outright hatred of Muslims is awful and unreasonable. There isn't any proof for the Bush-ist rhetoric that you are spouting
here in regards to who or what that region "hates". One cleric doesn't speak for the rest of the host country that they live in. It's like here.
I don't think anyone will argue that Bush didn't speak for the majority of Americans and we certainly did not approve of his methods of war,
torture, spying etc AND STILL DON'T. So you can't judge everyone by the ticker of what ever "Skiesfalling" media you subscribe to. That's just
4. You ARE a racist. In fact, your disdain for third world countries and the hoot-hooting of egregious American foreign policy is sad.