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Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by akushla99
I dunno - i'm thick - please enlighten me.
Originally posted by akushla99
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by akushla99
I dunno - i'm thick - please enlighten me.
Have you not noticed the capitalised words...FREE WILL?...to then ask me whether what that means is that I agree that we have no FREE WILL?
Is that 'enlightening' enough?
Lol
A99
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
Originally posted by akushla99
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by akushla99
I dunno - i'm thick - please enlighten me.
Have you not noticed the capitalised words...FREE WILL?...to then ask me whether what that means is that I agree that we have no FREE WILL?
Is that 'enlightening' enough?
Lol
A99
It is not your will. The will is willed by God.edit on 12-11-2012 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by AthlonSavage
reply to post by Itisnowagain
Please explain then what determines outcomes? If its not freechoice nor fate then what is it?
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
Originally posted by akushla99
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by akushla99
I dunno - i'm thick - please enlighten me.
Have you not noticed the capitalised words...FREE WILL?...to then ask me whether what that means is that I agree that we have no FREE WILL?
Is that 'enlightening' enough?
Lol
A99
It is not your will. The will is willed by God.
"Man can do what he wills but he cannot will what he wills."
Schopenhauer.edit on 12-11-2012 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by akushla99
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
Originally posted by akushla99
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by akushla99
I dunno - i'm thick - please enlighten me.
Have you not noticed the capitalised words...FREE WILL?...to then ask me whether what that means is that I agree that we have no FREE WILL?
Is that 'enlightening' enough?
Lol
A99
It is not your will. The will is willed by God.
"Man can do what he wills but he cannot will what he wills."
Schopenhauer.edit on 12-11-2012 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)
...and I should be impressed by Schopenhauer...because?
A99
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by akushla99
You might believe you are a wave until you realize that you are the ocean.
Originally posted by akushla99
reply to post by Itisnowagain
Then what purpose does it serve to me?
A99
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
Originally posted by akushla99
reply to post by Itisnowagain
Then what purpose does it serve to me?
A99
'Purpose' and 'me' are illuionary, they are both ideas, both are beliefs that have not been investigated...
There is no purpose and there is no 'me'.
This, this, is all there is.
With that said, i will try to explain:
The 'me' is a wave that thinks it is separate from the ocean. Maybe the 'purpose' is for the 'me' (wave) to realize itself as the one ocean. When the 'me' realizes (the ocean) the 'me' disolves.
There is nothing in it for the 'me'.
The 'me' is the searching for that which will complete 'me'. The ocean which is not separate just watches the waving. When the wave gets tried it drops down and is not just immersed in ocean but is the ocean. It is complete.
The wave was never not complete - the wave was never separate. But the wave likes to believe it is (for a while)because it makes life exciting.edit on 12-11-2012 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)