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posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 05:31 AM
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Originally posted by akushla99

Originally posted by Itisnowagain
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This is a discussion. If you feel i am teaching you then you don't understand discussion.
I can only share what is known here.
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It ceases to be a discussion when the dynamics change...😉

I'm all for discussion...

A99


You have the 'notion' that this is me teaching you.
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posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 05:33 AM
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Originally posted by akushla99

Originally posted by Itisnowagain
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Reality is not a concept. Reality is non conceptual.
It is words laid upon reality that makes reality seem wrong. Reality is. It is neither right nor wrong. The mind uses concepts to try to understand reality, it uses words to describe the undescribable and gets very confused.
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Interesting though, that you would use 'words' to describe its non-conceptuality, and/or rely on them to get your point across...somehow, contradictory...non? Do you have any other methods by which you could do this?

A99


Language is the problem. No one can show you reality using words. You have to just see it.
Seeing, tasting, touching, smelling and hearing are all non conceptual.
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posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 05:35 AM
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Originally posted by Itisnowagain

Originally posted by akushla99

Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by akushla99
 


Reality is not a concept. Reality is non conceptual.
It is words laid upon reality that makes reality seem wrong. Reality is. It is neither right nor wrong. The mind uses concepts to try to understand reality, it uses words to describe the undescribable and gets very confused.
edit on 11-11-2012 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)


Interesting though, that you would use 'words' to describe its non-conceptuality, and/or rely on them to get your point across...somehow, contradictory...non? Do you have any other methods by which you could do this?

A99


Language is the problem. No one can show you reality using words. You have to just see it.


'Language is a virus from outer space' William Burroughs...

Agreed, and agreed...

A99



posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 05:37 AM
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Originally posted by akushla99

Originally posted by Itisnowagain

Originally posted by akushla99

Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by akushla99
 


Reality is not a concept. Reality is non conceptual.
It is words laid upon reality that makes reality seem wrong. Reality is. It is neither right nor wrong. The mind uses concepts to try to understand reality, it uses words to describe the undescribable and gets very confused.
edit on 11-11-2012 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)


Interesting though, that you would use 'words' to describe its non-conceptuality, and/or rely on them to get your point across...somehow, contradictory...non? Do you have any other methods by which you could do this?

A99


Language is the problem. No one can show you reality using words. You have to just see it.


'Language is a virus from outer space' William Burroughs...

Agreed, and agreed...

A99


Language and words make believe there is more than 'this' (what is here presently). There isn't!!



posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 05:38 AM
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Originally posted by Itisnowagain

Originally posted by akushla99

Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by akushla99
 


This is a discussion. If you feel i am teaching you then you don't understand discussion.
I can only share what is known here.
edit on 11-11-2012 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)


It ceases to be a discussion when the dynamics change...😉

I'm all for discussion...

A99


You have the 'notion' that this is me teaching you.
edit on 11-11-2012 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)


'Games People Play' Eric Berne

I'm all for discussion...

A99



posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 05:39 AM
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Originally posted by Itisnowagain

Originally posted by akushla99

Originally posted by Itisnowagain

Originally posted by akushla99

Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by akushla99
 


Reality is not a concept. Reality is non conceptual.
It is words laid upon reality that makes reality seem wrong. Reality is. It is neither right nor wrong. The mind uses concepts to try to understand reality, it uses words to describe the undescribable and gets very confused.
edit on 11-11-2012 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)


Interesting though, that you would use 'words' to describe its non-conceptuality, and/or rely on them to get your point across...somehow, contradictory...non? Do you have any other methods by which you could do this?

A99


Language is the problem. No one can show you reality using words. You have to just see it.


'Language is a virus from outer space' William Burroughs...

Agreed, and agreed...

A99


Language and words make believe there is more than 'this' (what is here presently). There isn't!!


'There is no-one here but us chickens'...

A99



posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 05:42 AM
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Originally posted by akushla99

Originally posted by Itisnowagain

Originally posted by akushla99

Originally posted by Itisnowagain

Originally posted by akushla99

Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by akushla99
 


Reality is not a concept. Reality is non conceptual.
It is words laid upon reality that makes reality seem wrong. Reality is. It is neither right nor wrong. The mind uses concepts to try to understand reality, it uses words to describe the undescribable and gets very confused.
edit on 11-11-2012 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)


Interesting though, that you would use 'words' to describe its non-conceptuality, and/or rely on them to get your point across...somehow, contradictory...non? Do you have any other methods by which you could do this?

A99


Language is the problem. No one can show you reality using words. You have to just see it.


'Language is a virus from outer space' William Burroughs...

Agreed, and agreed...

A99


Language and words make believe there is more than 'this' (what is here presently). There isn't!!


'There is no-one here but us chickens'...

A99


There is no one here. This is nothing happening.
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posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 05:49 AM
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Here's where the 'notion' resides...

If...you had said, "according to me"...this would be a discussion...as it is, the dynamic is one resembling a monologue...so, apparently you are alone discussing nothing with no-one, and it really isn't happening?!

A99
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posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 05:51 AM
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Originally posted by akushla99
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Here's where the 'notion' resides...

If...you had said, "according to me"...this would be a discussion...as it is, the dynamic is one resembling a monologue...so, apparently you are alone discussing nothing with no-one?!

A99


There is no 'me'. 'Me' is just a story over time (which does not exist).
Oneness, wholeness has no other.

And this is why there is no freewill for the individual - because there is nothing individual. It is one.
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posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 05:53 AM
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Originally posted by Itisnowagain

Originally posted by akushla99
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Here's where the 'notion' resides...

If...you had said, "according to me"...this would be a discussion...as it is, the dynamic is one resembling a monologue...so, apparently you are alone discussing nothing with no-one?!

A99


There is no 'me'. 'Me' is just a story over time (which does not exist).
Oneness, wholeness has no other.


Preaching to the converted...

A99



posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 05:54 AM
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Originally posted by akushla99

Originally posted by Itisnowagain

Originally posted by akushla99
reply to post by Itisnowagain
 


Here's where the 'notion' resides...

If...you had said, "according to me"...this would be a discussion...as it is, the dynamic is one resembling a monologue...so, apparently you are alone discussing nothing with no-one?!

A99


There is no 'me'. 'Me' is just a story over time (which does not exist).
Oneness, wholeness has no other.


Preaching to the converted...

A99


What does that mean?



posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 05:55 AM
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Originally posted by Itisnowagain

Originally posted by akushla99

Originally posted by Itisnowagain

Originally posted by akushla99
reply to post by Itisnowagain
 


Here's where the 'notion' resides...

If...you had said, "according to me"...this would be a discussion...as it is, the dynamic is one resembling a monologue...so, apparently you are alone discussing nothing with no-one?!

A99


There is no 'me'. 'Me' is just a story over time (which does not exist).
Oneness, wholeness has no other.


Preaching to the converted...

A99


What does that mean?


It doesn't matter what it means...nothing 'matters'...

A99



posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 05:56 AM
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Originally posted by akushla99

Originally posted by Itisnowagain

Originally posted by akushla99

Originally posted by Itisnowagain

Originally posted by akushla99
reply to post by Itisnowagain
 


Here's where the 'notion' resides...

If...you had said, "according to me"...this would be a discussion...as it is, the dynamic is one resembling a monologue...so, apparently you are alone discussing nothing with no-one?!

A99


There is no 'me'. 'Me' is just a story over time (which does not exist).
Oneness, wholeness has no other.


Preaching to the converted...

A99


What does that mean?


It doesn't matter what it means...nothing 'matters'...

A99


Nothing appears to matter. Nothing looks like this.
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posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 05:58 AM
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Appearances, like words, are decieving...

A99
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posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 06:01 AM
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Originally posted by akushla99
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Appearances, like words, are decieving...

A99
edit on 11-11-2012 by akushla99 because: (no reason given)


Thoughts that appear can be deceptive. They speak of things that do not exist and if they are believed the deception is complete.
The appearance in itself is true.
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posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 06:10 AM
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Originally posted by Itisnowagain

Originally posted by akushla99
reply to post by Itisnowagain
 


Appearances, like words, are decieving...

A99
edit on 11-11-2012 by akushla99 because: (no reason given)


Thoughts that appear can be deceptive. They speak of things that do not exist and if they are believed the deception is complete.
The appearance in itself is true.


...and what, in your humble opinion, does not exist?

Thoughts do not only...'just appear'...and when and if they do (in this manner of 'not just appearing') they build appearances...the appearance is a true representation of a thought, whether of the 'just appearing', or of the directed kind...that is the 'mechanics' of the situation we are in...belief, is a cog in the mechanics...without it, the machine does not turn...from the top down!

...and what, in your humble opinion, does not exist?

A99



posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 06:13 AM
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Originally posted by akushla99

Originally posted by Itisnowagain

Originally posted by akushla99
reply to post by Itisnowagain
 


Appearances, like words, are decieving...

A99
edit on 11-11-2012 by akushla99 because: (no reason given)


Thoughts that appear can be deceptive. They speak of things that do not exist and if they are believed the deception is complete.
The appearance in itself is true.


...and what, in your humble opinion, does not exist?

Thoughts do not only...'just appear'...and when and if they do (in this manner of 'not just appearing') they build appearances...the appearance is a true representation of a thought, whether of the 'just appearing', or of the directed kind...that is the 'mechanics' of the situation we are in...belief, is a cog in the mechanics...without it, the machine does not turn...from the top down!

...and what, in your humble opinion, does not exist?

A99

Does tomorrow exist? Does yesterday exist?
What is appearing does not have to be thought first. The pc monitor does not have to be thought by you for it to appear.
What is here now is appearing to exist. When will tomorrow appear? No one has ever experienced tomorrow.
Do you exist separate from life?
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posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 06:15 AM
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Thoughts do 'just appear'. Everything is just appearing and then disappearing. It appears out of nothing and then disappears back to nothing.



posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 06:19 AM
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Time, as you know, is a necessary 'appearance' in this locum...

Bombarding the human mechanism with more information than is necessary is counterproductive...this 'arena' requires a 'passing parade'...

A99



posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 06:22 AM
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Originally posted by akushla99

belief, is a cog in the mechanics...without it, the machine does not turn...from the top down!

...and what, in your humble opinion, does not exist?

A99


Are you saying that it is belief that runs the machine? The machine is belief.
But reality is not a machine. Reality is truth - it happens regardless of what is believed.





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