posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 01:05 PM
Forgive me members, it has been over 4 months since my last rant.
I have noticed that there are quite a few threads being posted on the new changes that were passed on election day. It seems that members here are on
a one track mind with the laws that were passed. Some of the OPs state 2 changes in different locations, but it is only one change being discussed.
The fact that 3 States have passed same sex marriage is being completely overlooked and ignored in favor of breaking the T&Cs to discuss the other
topic. The topic of same sex marriage is just as important if not more so, to a lot of people out there, but members here would rather scream "We
have freedom of speech and you are censoring us" so I would like to dedicate this rant to the issue of "Freedom of Speech" here on ATS.
Where does it say we have the freedom of speech? Where does it say we have the right to say anything we wish? The answer to this is NOWHERE. We do not
have the freedom of speech. The powers that be(the 3 amigos) have given us the freedom to complain and/or disagree as well as the freedom to say
almost what we like, but that is just not enough for some people. I see in post after post about how we have the freedom of speech and quite frankly
it is getting old.
In the United States, afforded by the Bill of Rights, there is the freedom of speech. It is documented, expressed, and upheld(for the most part). When
asked, a Citizen of the U.S. can bring it up and show it as proof. Now this is not complete freedom of speech as other laws have been passed that
define what that freedom really is. It is not universal on all topics of discussion in public arenas. One can complain all they want, but this is not
going to change like it or not. Thus is the World we live in. Stating the government has no right to limit our speech is false because the can and do.
It has been accepted by the Supreme Court and passed as Law also recognized, accepted, and enforced.
ATS is not the U.S. It does not recognize the rights granted to you as a citizen of the U.S. or any other country nor does it have to. It must follow
and enforce laws and regulations regarding those placed on companies such as illegal activities that govern internet usage, but it has nothing to do
with the rights given or not to you as a human being.
If a U.S. citizen were to travel to China they no longer have the freedom of speech as they are NOT IN THE U.S. One will be arrested just as easily as
a Chinese National for breaking the law of THEIR land. Another example is all these U.S. citizens who are arrested in other countries think they have
the right to and demand a phone call and an attorney. Guess what? They are not bound by those rights and can deny you these assumed rights. The only
thing SOME countries must do is to notify your embassy of your incarceration because, and only because, that is what their laws state.
When you come to ATS you are not a U.S. citizen nor are you a British citizen, an Australian, a German or a South African. Your rights afforded by
your government has nothing to do with ATS so stop trying to hold the staff to that criteria. You can say, " There SHOULD be the freedom of speech"
or "You SHOULDN'T censor peoples opinions" but to say they must give you freedom of speech because it is your right or that they can not censor
your posts is ignorant and arrogant. They have every right to create and enforce their own laws and regulations based on the way they want their site
We should consider ourselves very lucky to have the freedoms we do have on this site but for some people this is just not enough. They want their cake
and to eat it too, but guess what? The cake is a lie like it or not. Just because a law is passed in a few States does not change the laws here on
ATS. Don't you think the 3 amigos and the rest of the staff are fully aware of the new laws that were passed? Don't you think that if they felt they
should open the forums and agree amongst themselves the discussion should be allowed it would be? Do you honestly think the entire forum was closed
due to a single infraction? No, it was closed due to repeated violations even after many many warnings to members to not discuss it the way the
You do not have the right to freedom of speech. This is ATS law. They have the right to censor posts. This is ATS law. Stop trying to impose your
countries law on ATS. Stop assuming you can dictate to the staff what your rights are because your country allows it in regards to how they enforce
their laws. Stop being assumptive, ignorant, and arrogant and follow the laws set down.
I will probably get flamed for this, but I have written nothing but truth accept it or not, and if not be prepared to accept the consequences of your
actions set down by those that give you the freedoms you do have. All I ask really, is that everyone stop and realize, we do have a lot of freedom on
this site and because there are many other sites out there that do allow for discussions not allowed here, getting mad about the rules or pushing the
limits to the staffs patience is immature, ignorant and arrogant. take some time to go to another site and discuss it to your hearts content then come
back and see what you missed while you were at the neighbors place.