posted on Nov, 10 2012 @ 01:05 PM
I'll be honest, I did not read most of this thread, I read the first 10 replies or so... this is a reply to the OP and I guess everything that
followed from it.
I want to say, that what is about to follow is certainly not a popular opinion, but it should be said none-the-less.
1st) Our founding fathers, founded this country because their interests were not being represented. They were wealthy men in a time without
capitalism, or at least without the modern understanding of it. They didn't mind paying taxes but they wanted a voice, when that request was refused,
they saw no other option other than to rebel. The whole list of freedoms we're now entitled to, kinda just got tacked on to gain the support of the
people. So the point is, whenever you say we aren't following in the footsteps of our patriarchs, of course we aren't it, was a different world and
their practices are long since dead. So please stop acting like the current conservative motto's are equivalent to our fore-father's, because that
is just plain false. This is a topic of it's own which I'd be happy to discuss in greater lengths, but I have more to say.
2nd) Maybe the system we have now isn't so great... I mean, maybe this isn't the way we are suppose to live, so why continue to perpetuate this
notion of a fear of Socialism or that Capitalism is the greatest system ever. You know, we as humans along our known historical timeline have gotten
"LOTS" of stuff wrong. From our position in the universe and our perspective of it, we've still yet to figure out why everything works the way it
does, even with roaring capitalism perpetuating a 'free-nation' there were still millions of starving people around the world, there were still mass
murders and other crimes against humanity being committed. So it can be said even when everything was 'going right' it still wasn't the best it
I think that should be the main point that we all think about. Neither political side has gotten the people's or humanity's interests quite right
yet, we've got a system that has been manipulated for personal gain time and time again, but hey, that's capitalism right? I don't know about the
rest of you, but that doesn't seem like a system that will last long, and it didn't really.
OP you are right, what we have known as our society's 'golden age' is coming to an end. There is nothing that can stop it, having a different
president today, would not have stopped it, this has been long coming, and I'd have to say, "the elite want you to place the blame on an individual
or with generalizations; but in reality, we are ALL to blame."
Every single one of us has a hand in this outcome, every time you were passive, every time you thought it would work itself out, every time you put
your faith in 'one man' to fix the country, every time you believed humans would excel, you were wrong. Everyone of us needs to be proactive, but it
should be your choice to participate. Either help humanity at every turn, or get out of the way and accept nothing in return.
Our current views of socialism's ability to destroy the economic infrastructure of a nation, should be passed onto capitalism, it had the same
effect, just on a longer time scale. So I believe it is our job to pick up the pieces and hopefully come up with a better answer. Just like you can't
mold dried clay, you can't fix a flawed system. Ask any computer programmer if he can fix bad coding, no their answer will always be, just scrap it
and start over. Well that's what needs to happen, and inevitably will happen; but there is a difference. If we let it happen, it will be a
regression, it we make it happen, if we force the hand, it will be progressive, that's the difference of what really needs to happen in this country,
and around the world.