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posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 07:47 PM
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Originally posted by HappyBunny
You know what? America has spoken and you lost.


YOU know what? Idiots have spoken and we ALL lost, including YOU. Why don't you pay attention to smart people for a change.




posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 07:52 PM
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I was waiting for some huge rant to show up on ATS about the election. Sorry your favorite candidate didn't win!

Edit: On topic, if you cut "entitlement" programs you would not only be starving tens of millions of people but it would make a very very small dent in our deficit. The real problem is DEFENSE SPENDING. You could literally get rid of all courts, social programs (water, trash, electricity and all other inner city government workers) and you would still be left with trillions in deficit all because of DEFENSE SPENDING.

The only real solution to this problem is to spend more money on creating jobs and cut DEFENSE SPENDING by 50%+. Four years is not enough to fix what Bush and Dick did to this economy, try four decades.
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posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 07:55 PM
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Originally posted by olaru12

But what you fail to understand is that the debt isn't real money. It's 1 and 0s in a data bank somewhere in Switzerland and can and will be erased with the click of a mouse.

And just who is this so called massive debt owed to anyway? China...how would they collect? How would any entity collect on this debt of cyber money?
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You're a genius. You should run for president. At least you have a plan.



posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 07:57 PM
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Originally posted by zero1020
I was waiting for some huge rant to show up on ATS about the election. Sorry your favorite candidate didn't win!


We all lost.



posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 08:02 PM
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Since you came in here just to insult:

You spelled constitution wrong and the USA is not a democratic republic as you put it.

This country was founded as a republic.......no one knows what the frack it is now.



posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 08:37 PM
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Originally posted by HappyBunny

Originally posted by eleven44
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Your comment is much more hate filled and dividing than the OP.

I don't care about Obama or Romney, for the record.

But really, it's attitudes like yours, not the OP, that will do more harm to this country than good.


I don't hate them. I'm just fed up with them. They're still whining and are still willing to drive this country over a cliff even after they just got spanked.

Unbelievable.



got spanked? This isn't a sporting event. It's our lives.



Originally posted by olaru12

Originally posted by camaro68ss


I think after the SHTF and we start to rebuild, Ill be starting the constitutonal party.
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No.......... you won't be starting the constitutional party because there already is one. And you can't even spell it correctly.


www.americanconstitutionparty.com...

Did you even do any reasearch to VOTE for the constution party. I don't even think you are old enough to vote because only an adolescent would think that disenfranchising half of the electorate, and calling them names is the way a democratic republic works.
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timetothink is right



posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 08:37 PM
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“I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.” – Thomas Jefferson



“…a wise and frugal government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, which shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government.” – Thomas Jefferson



I think government schools have done more to destroy this gold nugget. I wonder how many people think the Constitution enumerates the rights of the people when, in fact, the Constitution enumerates the limitations of government in regards to the rights of the people. And how many think the government should lend a “helping hand” when truth be told that extended hand is the same one that will hold you down.


timpj5.wordpress.com...’s-view-of-government/



Is any of this history taught in school anymore or is it all sex education and political correctness?








@yahtzee....thank you.
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posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 08:42 PM
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Originally posted by olaru12

Originally posted by Stormdancer777

Originally posted by xedocodex
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We heard the exact same thing in 2008.

Looks like the country is still here.


and it is worse off, and deeper in debt
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But what you fail to understand is that the debt isn't real money. It's 1 and 0s in a data bank somewhere in Switzerland and can and will be erased with the click of a mouse.

And just who is this so called massive debt owed to anyway? China...how would they collect? How would any entity collect on this debt of cyber money?
edit on 9-11-2012 by olaru12 because: (no reason given)


The same way Governments always get what they want, if they can't get it peacefully, they take it by force.

By the way let us all welcome our soon to be 51st state, Puerto Rico.
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posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 08:56 PM
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I'm sick of all the "You Lost! Get over it!" type comments. As if this is some silly game. This isn't a Republican loss. This is an American loss. This isn't a Democrat win. This is a win for foreign nations.

And what is it with Libral mantras? Hope and Change. Forward not Backwards. Where is any substance that shows a benefit to the nation and the people? For America, Forward is falling into a canyon.

The op is spot on with what the voters chose this election. Their vote is either support for or agreement with the idea of increased debt, taxes, larger government and less freedom. This fact should blow the minds of anyone calling themselves American.
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posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 09:39 PM
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I didn't support either candidate because they both were playing the same old games.
Romney couldn't attack Obama on transparency because he knew he would have to answer to his own skeletons.

Romney couldn't attack Obama on abortion because he has spent most of his life a supporter of murdering babies.

Romney couldn't attack Obama on healthcare because his health care plan is a small scale model of what was passed.

Romney couldn't attack Obama on religion because his own religion is controversial.

Romney never defended his jobs record when attacked so his attacks on Obama looked like a joke.



Who failed you ask? not the republicans, not the democrats, and not the politicians Americans Failed.

Americans failed to see the game being played by both parties for years now.

Americans failed to vote their minds, but voted for whom they were told too. You voted for Obama because you were told to and the atmosphere created served to polarized you to either or.

You voted for Romney because you were told too and because you were told to and the atmosphere created served to polarized you to either or.

Not one person can honestly say they understand the strategy or approach either candidate wanted to direct America with. Not one person here knows who their candidate was, but know a persona created by media and politicians to portray their candidate as the best choice.

Both repubs and democrats won because Americans guaranteed they will always vote for a Dem or re-pub.

Wake up america learn from our mistakes and kick these guys Repubs and Dems out of our government.



posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 10:06 PM
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Originally posted by zero1020
I was waiting for some huge rant to show up on ATS about the election. Sorry your favorite candidate didn't win!

Edit: On topic, if you cut "entitlement" programs you would not only be starving tens of millions of people but it would make a very very small dent in our deficit. The real problem is DEFENSE SPENDING. You could literally get rid of all courts, social programs (water, trash, electricity and all other inner city government workers) and you would still be left with trillions in deficit all because of DEFENSE SPENDING.

The only real solution to this problem is to spend more money on creating jobs and cut DEFENSE SPENDING by 50%+. Four years is not enough to fix what Bush and Dick did to this economy, try four decades.
edit on 9-11-2012 by zero1020 because: (no reason given)


Zero? Your half correct. The defense budget is one financial HOLE.

For the record, the State Of Nevada recieves a THIRD of their revenue from military bases, and the other THIRD with what's left over from siphoned off casino revenue. (Casino Revenue Theft In Nevada Is Another topic. Think about it. ALL THAT CASH MOVES Though VEGAS?)

The other THIRD is what Harry Reid siphons off from federal subsidies.

And yet, Nevada is last in education and employment.
www.kolotv.com...

www.lasvegassun.com...

And yet? Drive through Nevada and look at all the new roads going through Nevada they're building. Roads with little "cowboy" shadows are everywhere.
Harry got them federal employees those contracts.
And the employment record is still that weak in Nevada.

This IS like WW2 with soldiers coming home. But we already spent our dough. Now? We MUST bring the boys home and retrain them back into our culture without violence.
There's a LOT of pissed off Vets out there. And I hurt for them.
Where do we put them?
Easier to keep them trained soldiers off shore. Safer too. Find another mission. We ain't got no jobs for them.
To say bring them home without jobs the government is unqualified to offer is a design for disaster.

Get a better game plan.

It's a mess.

Cheers!



posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 10:14 PM
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..because it is time to heal and shove new age crap down our throats about some ascension and higher plane of consciousness that isn't even there for most people. Spiritual vanity.



posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 10:42 PM
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You might be certifiably insane trying to defend the wealthy oligarchy against the people.




Here is the proof...


How long has it been getting bad?

When was the last time a weeks pay could support a family?

We got here in increments.

This didn't just all happen and if you think so either you aren't paying attention or you are just hopelessly misinformed and deluded.

Is it a coincidence the wealthiest 1% of the country increased their net earnings just by changing the tax codes - increased their wealth 700% over the course of 20 years???

Is it any coincidence the cost of living went up every year in those 20 years but the wages paid to workers stayed the same? You are blaming this on COMMUNISM? And you are laying it at Obamas door?
Don't you see industrialists behind these maneuvers?
The rich getting richer...If you don't I can't help you.



posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 10:51 PM
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how is paying taxes to provide you services socialism.

pooling the nations resources for the benefit of its citizens isn't socialism

why is it socialism to use your taxes to pay for your surgery socialism and using taxes to pay for a senators not.

why is it socialism to build a hospital but to build a cruise missile not.

you're taxes are being collected. what they are being used for or who benefits has nothing to do with socialism, communism or any other ism you can think of.

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posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 10:52 PM
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post removed for serious violation of ATS Terms & Conditions



posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 10:59 PM
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Originally posted by AwakeinNM

Originally posted by HappyBunny
You know what? America has spoken and you lost.


YOU know what? Idiots have spoken and we ALL lost, including YOU. Why don't you pay attention to smart people for a change.




Wait.
The educated people have spoken.
There are those who can't be convinced this is the right path for the country and they have a severe lack of formal education, zero economics and a biased and skewed version of history in common. None of them voted Obama. I work with some hard core southerners who literally cling to their guns and fit all the stereotypes you can come up with. It is awfully solemn around the old homestead. The schools they went to wouldn't pass for schools in NY. The restaurants they operate can't hold a candle to those we have in NY. They are kind of BACKWARDS and SLOW compared to New Yorkers who are as I recall generally liberal progressive and democratic. I had to stop myself from calling one of the chicks STUPID this evening in fact because she came out with stuff like this. Are you all listening to the same websight or something?



posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 11:18 PM
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SO very very true it breaks my heart to see a nation i love so much brought to this ..SO SO many have gave there lives for our freedom and we repay them with this ,shame SHAME ON US !!!!!



posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 11:24 PM
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You can look at the debt and think to yourself "Is this much debt safe".Everyone knows this is way way way to much debt and it is exactly how the euro is messed all up.

Nobody was warning about this kind of economy stuff before the 2008 collapse that was told by Bush and Obama as the 2nd great depression before they did the bailouts.So people are not fear mongering when they warn about what is very very dangerous bad economy.

Just what will be the tipping point with all of this and when will it get far worse.



posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 11:31 PM
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Drama Queens

For real...get over it. You have been spreading the same ol' BS for four years now and yet nothing has come ture.

You have all predicted Obama would be the downfall of America and said after his first term was up..it would be a complete disaster. All lies.

All you old people need to get out of the past and move forward, your time has come and gone...let the youth decide their future.

Times are different..you need to deal with it.



posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 11:34 PM
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One more thing...he won the election and the popular vote.

What gives any of you right to decide what is best for other people...you are trying to decide for people....and cry about it when it is "supposedly" done to you.

You are all just coming off as DRAMA QUEENS and sore losers.





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