America Has Passed the Rubicon, Welcome to the USSA and Eventually, Collapse.

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posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 12:47 PM
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Originally posted by amatrine
Dont you love how you can not say anything anymore, about what is going on with this country and backing it with data, and you get the comments like above? Everyone has their rite to their beliefs, but to bash someone for what they see coming is not rite...


I read your post and thought about your spelling of the word "rite"...ya know..."Right" "Write" "Rite"...it occurred to me you actually got the spelling correct.

rite/rīt/

Noun:
1.A religious or other solemn ceremony or act: "the rite of communion"; "fertility rites".
2.A body of customary observances characteristic of a church or a part of it.

It is simply a "rite" for the far right to continually espouse doomsday propaganda. It is doctrine to them. They believe their own lies.

For those unwilling to acknowledge facts, science, math...truth's of any kind that rebut their ideological fictions...there is no other conclusion than a socialist USA.

What is left for those folks is marginalization...they can cheer for demise if for no other reason than the hope they might one day shout that they were "right"...but the American people? We are moving forward and upwards.

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posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 12:48 PM
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Originally posted by TeflonBear
reply to post by olaru12
 


Maybe you should read his/her signature before you troll!


I read his signature and my response is that plenty of deaf people can spell just fine.

Read my signature...........

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posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 12:51 PM
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reply to post by xedocodex
 


What about Obamas Stimulus plan? That was not lowering the debt.



posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by olaru12

Originally posted by TeflonBear
reply to post by olaru12
 


Maybe you should read his/her signature before you troll!


I read his signature and my response is that plenty of deaf people can spell just fine.

Read my signature...........

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I didnt see

"Dedicated Troll"

Anywhere...

Stop derailing thread old timer



posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by olaru12

Originally posted by Stormdancer777

Originally posted by xedocodex
reply to post by camaro68ss
 


We heard the exact same thing in 2008.

Looks like the country is still here.


and it is worse off, and deeper in debt
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But what you fail to understand is that the debt isn't real money. It's 1 and 0s in a data bank somewhere in Switzerland and can and will be erased with the click of a mouse.

And just who is this so called massive debt owed to anyway? China...how would they collect? How would any entity collect on this debt of cyber money?
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It’s not that easy, yes it 1's and 0's but it’s not in a data bank in Switzerland, I don’t have the breakout on me but for the most part the Federal Reserve owns the largest portion of the debt. Your comment vindicates the problems of America and what i talked about in my OP. It’s not your fault at all. It’s what was taught to you. If you truly want to know the financial status of America and where we stand you can MSM me. ill be happy to help
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posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by amatrine
reply to post by xedocodex
 


What about Obamas Stimulus plan? That was not lowering the debt.


That's why I didn't say he lowered the "debt".

The confusion over "debt" and "deficit" is a major problem in America.



posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 12:56 PM
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OP, I don't think you understand what you're writing.
Sounds like a load if fear mongering, just like the
Republicans used after Clinton was elected.

You and terror crew have been ignoring that evidence
Of economic recovery in exports, housing, manufacturing
And even Wall Street.

When these things hit normal levels, what are you guys
Gonna do?

How are you gonna paint fear when all the facts prove your
Communist conspiracy wrong?

How about this.... If the economy recovers, all of you in fear
Now have to vote for liberal next election.



posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 12:57 PM
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No I wasn't excited about Romney either, just hopeful he might be able to make some changes, and if he didn't

vote um out

enough of this eight year second chance garbage and Washington fat cats in office for 35 years, I am sick of it.

Obama is scheduled to visit Thailand, Myanmar (Burma) and Cambodia Nov. 17-20,

How about he stays here and works with congress on the budget?



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posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 12:57 PM
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The practices of our government over the last twenty years is what is going to cause the collapse. There isn't a chance in hell that it won't. No matter who won the presidency it would still collapse, you can't run a country the way we were doing. The Electoral system is to blame, you can't blame it on either party as much as to blame it on the whole system.

We have to keep regulations protecting the environment in place or we will destroy the future of humanity. I see many Republicans against regulations, they are worried about votes now and not about our grandchildren's future. You can't give everyone everything they want in this country, that is a ridiculous concept. We will destroy the environment in a little while and mankind will become extinct.



posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 12:58 PM
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Yea you are right, I think it is to late,

Gonna go print some money



posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 01:02 PM
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I personally think the whole we gonna go communism is from the red scare back in the 40s. "They will invade you anytime!".

In a capitalist country, the word "communism" is used to stop changes, that people are not familiar with. Some people like to call it out to trigger the indoctrinated fear of communism.

Every Capitalist country has some communism in it. Communism is an old structure and human were made like that, to depend on each other.

While Pure communism is the perfect society, we can't have that with greedy people and opportunists(good or bad) because they put self before others, some are even taught to be that way.


edit: i really hate when people put one side over the other, instead of finding a good middle ground or new path.
This thread is slowly turning into hating democracy and putting conservatives on pedestal.


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posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 01:02 PM
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Originally posted by romney
OP, I don't think you understand what you're writing.
Sounds like a load if fear mongering, just like the
Republicans used after Clinton was elected.

You and terror crew have been ignoring that evidence
Of economic recovery in exports, housing, manufacturing
And even Wall Street.

When these things hit normal levels, what are you guys
Gonna do?

How are you gonna paint fear when all the facts prove your
Communist conspiracy wrong?

How about this.... If the economy recovers, all of you in fear
Now have to vote for liberal next election.


simple math. $375 billion interest each year at 1.5%. Thats 14% of the revenue goes to interest now. Raise the interest rate to the historic normal of 6% and you now have 1.5 Trillion dollars in interest payments each year. That eats away 60% of the government revenue for the year.

That’s not fear mongering, it’s those pesky facts that keep getting in the way



posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 01:03 PM
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reply to post by camaro68ss
 


Way to bring up the moral!...............................................

Seriously, we need more positive thinking if we are EVER to get out of this hole!



posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 01:08 PM
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They just need to rein in their spending. For example, who needs a defense budget of almost $800 billion? If you cut this by three quarters your still above what the next couple of countries are at. At least that will get you closer to balancing the deficit.



posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 01:08 PM
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reply to post by HappyBunny
 


Your comment is much more hate filled and dividing than the OP.

I don't care about Obama or Romney, for the record.

But really, it's attitudes like yours, not the OP, that will do more harm to this country than good.



posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 01:10 PM
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Originally posted by romney
OP, I don't think you understand what you're writing.
Sounds like a load if fear mongering, just like the
Republicans used after Clinton was elected.

You and terror crew have been ignoring that evidence
Of economic recovery in exports, housing, manufacturing
And even Wall Street.

When these things hit normal levels, what are you guys
Gonna do?

How are you gonna paint fear when all the facts prove your
Communist conspiracy wrong?

How about this.... If the economy recovers, all of you in fear
Now have to vote for liberal next election.


and another note, when you print money, you decrees the value of the dollar. When the dollar goes down, the cost of goods and serves go up. That’s why food and gas are so much more expensive. those indicaters are based on the value of the goods. In all reality, the economy is been flat.

The government says inflation is 1.5%. They have to adjust social security yearly based on inflation. so yearly SS payments go up 1.5% but in reality inflation is more like 8% right now and climbing. by fudging the numbers they saved themselfs 6.5%. This is how your precious government robs you blind

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posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 01:12 PM
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Originally posted by amatrine
Dont you love how you can not say anything anymore, about what is going on with this country and backing it with data, and you get the comments like above? Everyone has their rite to their beliefs, but to bash someone for what they see coming is not rite...

America is in for trouble. The facts speak for themselves. No matter who won, we are in so much debt that there IS trouble on the way. This can not sustain itself. Jobs are leaving the country, more people on welfare than ever, the ones that do work and support the ones who do not are loosing their jobs. You can not have a country all on welfare with no one to pay for it.


Too bad. Apparently the rest of the country has rejected that mindset. When it happens twice in a row, you need to maybe sit back and re-evaluate your position.



posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 01:14 PM
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Originally posted by camaro68ss

Originally posted by phroziac
Your first reply proves whats wrong with the country. The majority are perfectly happy, only a minoroty have common sense.


I dont know whats better, to be ignorant and happy, or know the truth, be slightly depressed, and know that your about to be hit by a fright train.


Here we go. I don't see how you can possibly think you have a monopoly on truth when you get your information from a single source.

That's not critical thinking. That's called cognitive dissonance.



posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 01:16 PM
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Originally posted by HappyBunny

Originally posted by amatrine
Dont you love how you can not say anything anymore, about what is going on with this country and backing it with data, and you get the comments like above? Everyone has their rite to their beliefs, but to bash someone for what they see coming is not rite...

America is in for trouble. The facts speak for themselves. No matter who won, we are in so much debt that there IS trouble on the way. This can not sustain itself. Jobs are leaving the country, more people on welfare than ever, the ones that do work and support the ones who do not are loosing their jobs. You can not have a country all on welfare with no one to pay for it.


Too bad. Apparently the rest of the country has rejected that mindset. When it happens twice in a row, you need to maybe sit back and re-evaluate your position.


your comment was the whole point of my OP. the country is in give me give me mode and it will kill us. this debt will collapse.



posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 01:16 PM
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Originally posted by eleven44
reply to post by HappyBunny
 


Your comment is much more hate filled and dividing than the OP.

I don't care about Obama or Romney, for the record.

But really, it's attitudes like yours, not the OP, that will do more harm to this country than good.


I don't hate them. I'm just fed up with them. They're still whining and are still willing to drive this country over a cliff even after they just got spanked.

Unbelievable.





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