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America Has Passed the Rubicon, Welcome to the USSA and Eventually, Collapse.

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posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 11:51 AM
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There is no doubt this election is and will be for the record books. As I believe, this is the moment America descends into Communism, Marxism, depression, and finally collapse.

For the past few days now I’ve been distort on how the elections turned out. Not that I was a huge Romney supporter but a vote for him was a vote for the lesser of two evils really. One of moderate government involvement, Romney, and one of heavy government involvement, Obama, and the people have spoken. But do the people really know what they voted for? Do the people really understand were America stands at this point in time? I would honestly say no. But for us to have gotten to this point it took decades in the making starting with the indoctrination of our schools and universities.

The following was directed to citizens of the United States by Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev in 1956:



“We will take America without firing a shot…….We will BURY YOU! We can’t expect the American people to jump from Capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of Socialism, until they awaken one day to find that they have Communism. We do not have to invade the United States, we will destroy you from within.”


(From an address to Western Ambassadors at the Polish embassy in Moscow on November 18, 1956.)

It’s a very powerful statement from Mr. Khrushchev but one that seems to becoming true. It is the indoctrination and dumbing down of society that is destroying America from within. Students are no longer taught how to critically think for themselves or find solutions on their own. There show government can fix anything but not shown how the free markets do it better. There shown how government knows how to better save for your retirement, “(social security), then you do. I honestly can’t comprehend how people are so willing to forgive there liberty’s to an ever growing government. Understand, I’m not advocating no government but a minimal government. “ A government that governs less governs best”


I remember watching students on election night crowding in front of the white house and cheering that Obama was reelected. I was so sick to my stomach to think these people voted for more debt, more taxes, and larger government without even batting an eye. This nanny state is going to crush them and they don’t even know what’s coming and I feel sorry for them.

I sit here looking at the debt, now at $16.2 TRILLION, and say, this can never ever be repaid. You can confiscate all the top 1%ers wealth and it still would not be enough to balance the budget! That’s crazy! If you liquidated bill gates assets it would only run the government for a month! We are in deep trouble and this election proves that no one wants it fixed. They want more and more handouts and free stuff.

Look at the interest on debt. It’s already at $375 billion a year at 1.5% interest rate. Historically interest rates run at 6%. If we have interest rates rise to historic normal levels our interest on debt will reach 1.5 Trillion dollars and consume 61% of all federal revenue! That’s interest only! But who cares, The voices in on tonight…(eyes rolling)

Now let’s look at the Federal Reserve and QE3. The Federal Reserve is printing $80 BILLION dollars a month to purchasing mortgage back securities and back stopping banks from failing. There printing $80 billion dollars a month and the economy is stagnant and heading to a recession, are you scared yet?

Did you know that you can cut ALL of government but you will still be in defect, crazy. The only last resort is to cut entitlements across the board 80%. But you can’t even do that because so many people rely on them for day to day living but it must happen to save America from collapse. It comes down to cutting entitlements by 80% and throwing America into the greatest depression of the known universe, or keep on going down the path and lose 100% of your entitlements when the United States economy collapses under its debt. But this can’t happen and won’t happen, the people voted for even more spending, more government, and more free stuff. Ron Paul said it best yesterday, “ We are already over the cliff now”, and I blame it on government.

So how can we fix this…. We cant. The system will collapse because of this redistribution, nanny state philosophy that the majority of American now believes in, if they know it or not. The only thing you can do now is prep and get ready for what I call the 2nd dark ages and hope you make it to the other side. Once the fallout is over we then rebuild America back to its founding’s, back to its constitution of free markets, self-reliability, charity, and your un alienable right provided by god of liberty, freedom, and your pursuit to happiness.

Good luck out there folks….We are in for some really hard times, and if you don’t believe it, your dreaming.
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posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 11:55 AM
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You know what? America has spoken and you lost.

GET OVER IT.
Enough of the inflammatory comments and fearmongering. Now is the time to heal, not tear this country apart any more than you already have.

If you're so unhappy, leave and start your own country. Nobody's stopping you, and I will personally help you pack and drive you to the airport, free of charge.


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posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 12:00 PM
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Dont you love how you can not say anything anymore, about what is going on with this country and backing it with data, and you get the comments like above? Everyone has their rite to their beliefs, but to bash someone for what they see coming is not rite...

America is in for trouble. The facts speak for themselves. No matter who won, we are in so much debt that there IS trouble on the way. This can not sustain itself. Jobs are leaving the country, more people on welfare than ever, the ones that do work and support the ones who do not are loosing their jobs. You can not have a country all on welfare with no one to pay for it.


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posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 12:05 PM
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Originally posted by HappyBunny
You know what? America has spoken and you lost.

GET OVER IT.
Enough of the inflammatory comments and fearmongering. Now is the time to heal, not tear this country apart any more than you already have.

If you're so unhappy, leave and start your own country. Nobody's stopping you, and I will personally help you pack and drive you to the airport, free of charge.


I dont really care who won, I belive Obama is a good guy and truly believes what he believes. But his believes are wrong. They’ve been tried again and again in history and failed every time. I’m not sad he won, I’m sad that the people have lost their county our forefathers fought so hard for.

Its your comments that are dividing the nation. Its your logic and blindness that cant see that our spending will kill us. Please stop turning my county into debt slaves
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posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 12:05 PM
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Just want to respond to your post first; I do not view this thread as a medium for complaining, more I see this as an objective view of the next 4 years and beyond of the United States. So your comment, being the very first one, does nothing but attempt to derail the issues touched on in the OP.
Before I continue, I will preface my reply by stating that I am not a US citizen.
Camaro, I am glad you touched on this point:

Students are no longer taught how to critically think for themselves or find solutions on their own.

I to have noticed a “dumbing” down of the education system in not only the US but Canada as well. Was there not a time when school readings comprised philosophical works from Socrates and Constitutional Arguments from the memoirs of some the founding fathers? What happened to truly understanding the nature of the nation/culture you inhabits.

Further to the above point, it seems that contemporary education promotes the creation of either entry level position workers to middle management.

are you scared yet?


I was scared when the US first ran a deficit.

We will take America without firing a shot…….We will BURY YOU! We can’t expect the American people to jump from Capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of Socialism, until they awaken one day to find that they have Communism. We do not have to invade the United States, we will destroy you from within.”

Eerily accurate prediction. Regardless of the size of the wall infront of you, if you can continue to chisel away it, it will eventual crumble away. The wall being Capitalism.
Thank you for the objective post.
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posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 12:06 PM
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Moderate government involvement, Romney, and one of heavy government involvement, Obama.


Isn't that one of the reason there is Democrat and Republicans?

One want to control the country by the rich, and other want government control so the rich don't abuse it.

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Republican run country would slowly give absolute power to the rich, manipulate how things work, soon after people with less money becomes a sub class, sort of like how 2000 yrs ago was... hmm wonder if the religious attitude has to do with anything.


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posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 12:06 PM
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I would say that YOU are the one posting inflammatory comments.

All of the positions listed in the OP are relatively easy to verify and all occured BEFORE Obama was re-elected.
Why is the truth such a hard pill for some to swallow?


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posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 12:08 PM
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Op call it like you see it



So much for the Mayan "end of the world" and the coming age of "enlightenment".


We have passed the edge of no return, and there is but only one outcome, collapse. 6 trillion spent the last 4 years another 6 trillion in the next 4.

12 trillion added to the 16 trillion already. more Americans on government programs taking out more than they are paying in.

Stick a fork in this country it's done.



posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 12:09 PM
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Originally posted by luciddream
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Moderate government involvement, Romney, and one of heavy government involvement, Obama.


Isn't that one of the reason there is Democrat and Republicans?

One want to control the country by the rich, and other want government control so the rich don't abuse it.

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Republican run country would slowly give absolute power to the rich, manipulate how things work, soon after people with less money becomes a sub class, sort of like how 2000 yrs ago was... hmm wonder if the religious attitude has to do with anything.


thats why we need to get away from the two party system. The republican party doesn’t represent me. We need a constitutional party, this party would better suit my believes.

but thats water under the bridge. I think after the SHTF and we start to rebuild, Ill be starting the constitutonal party.
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posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 12:13 PM
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Yes, I'm sure we're in an even bigger mess than I can personally imagine. You must realize something, though. A vote for a lesser of two evils is still a vote for evil, Romney is incapable of parting the Red Sea, and as you said, the debt is unpayable. Assuming he'd follow through on his own promises, the result would be the equivalent of lube for 8 years at most, and nothing else.


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posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 12:13 PM
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Your first reply proves whats wrong with the country. The majority are perfectly happy, only a minoroty have common sense.



posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 12:15 PM
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Originally posted by EllaMarina
Yes, I'm sure we're in an even bigger mess than I can personally imagine. You must realize something, though. A vote for a lesser of two evils is still a vote for evil, Romney is incapable of parting the Red Sea, and as you said, the debt is unpayable. Assuming he'd follow through on his own promises, the result would be the equivalent of lube for 8 years at most, and nothing else.


I 100% agree, I guess i looked at it as he's able to hold the dam togeather longer then Obama could, but all in all the dam is going to brake.



posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 12:18 PM
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Originally posted by phroziac
Your first reply proves whats wrong with the country. The majority are perfectly happy, only a minoroty have common sense.


I dont know whats better, to be ignorant and happy, or know the truth, be slightly depressed, and know that your about to be hit by a fright train.



posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 12:19 PM
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I just don't see what the big fuse is about socialism??? In many aspects Canada is a socialist nation. Look at our health care system. Here in Alberta I pay roughly 450.00 bucks a year to Alberta Health and I'm covered for just about everything. Plus on top of that I have health insurance from work which covers the rest.
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posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 12:20 PM
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Originally posted by camaro68ss


I think after the SHTF and we start to rebuild, Ill be starting the constitutonal party.
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No.......... you won't be starting the constitutional party because there already is one. And you can't even spell it correctly.


www.americanconstitutionparty.com...

Did you even do any reasearch to VOTE for the constution party. I don't even think you are old enough to vote because only an adolescent would think that disenfranchising half of the electorate, and calling them names is the way a democratic republic works.
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posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 12:20 PM
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You have put it so beautifully and I have been talking about this very thing for many months now.
NO, people don't know what they are voting for.

And they wont see the ramifications of their folly until it is too late.

I have lost all hope, future generation will suffer, and it will take decades for this to turn around if ever.

I doubt I will live to see it.




now is prep and get ready for what I call the 2nd dark ages


I said the exact thing to my children yesterday

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posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 12:20 PM
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DOOOOM!



LOL just LOL at this thread.



posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 12:21 PM
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Because it is giving up the rites we have that so many fought and died for. It takes away your power, and gives it all to the government. People immigrated to the US to escape those kind of governments, only to be headed on a road rite back there.

Socialism is slavery. Look at history, it has never worked.
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posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by HappyBunny
You know what? America has spoken and you lost.

GET OVER IT.
Enough of the inflammatory comments and fearmongering. Now is the time to heal, not tear this country apart any more than you already have.

If you're so unhappy, leave and start your own country. Nobody's stopping you, and I will personally help you pack and drive you to the airport, free of charge.


Thank you for revealing the TRUE nature of the "Big Party" tent - the Democrats. The "inclusive, inviting and diverse" party that they claim to be but aren't in any remote way.

I've already said my good-bye to America and have also finished grieving the loss of it. Now I am simply preparing for life AFTER America, in America. One that is going to be filled with chaos, anarchy, hardships and pain. I'm preparing - I suggest the rest of my non-Democrat friends do the same.

Attention Democrats: DO NOT even think about coming to me for help or aid. You voted for this and you will live with it - on your own!



posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 12:24 PM
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Originally posted by olaru12

Originally posted by camaro68ss


I think after the SHTF and we start to rebuild, Ill be starting the constitutonal party.
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No.......... you won't be starting the constitutional party because there already is one. And you can't even spell it correctly.


www.americanconstitutionparty.com...

Did you even do any reasearch to VOTE for the constution party. I don't even think you are old enough to vote.


Albert Einstein couldnt spell eather, he must have been a dummy too. why do you feel the need to attack me personally when all I’m doing is providing opinions and facts?
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