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For Obama, a Bigger Win Than for Kennedy, Nixon, Carter or Bush

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posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 06:53 AM
While there was a lull in activity after the elections, folks have gone back to hammering Obama on all sorts of issues. This is just a fact check article and meant to keep things in real perspective.

Obama’s win was bigger than John Kennedy’s in 1960 (303 electoral votes, popular vote margin of 112,827), bigger than Richard Nixon’s in 1968 (301 electoral votes, popular vote plurlaity of 512,000), bigger than Jimmy Carter’s in 1976 (297 electoral votes, popular vote margin of 1,683,247), bigger than George W. Bush’s in 2000 (271 electoral votes and a popular vote loss of 543,816).

And to Karl Rove:

Our friend Karl Rove attempted to suggest Tuesday night that Obama’s victory was diminished by the fact that the president did not improve on his 2008 numbers, and recalled that some presidents (Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton) have done so. But he failed to note how over the past century, many presidents have stumbled in their bids for second terms, including: George H.W. Bush (defeated in 1992), Jimmy Carter (defeated in 1976), Lyndon Johnson (decided not to seek re-election bid after 1968 primary setbacks), Harry Truman (decided not to seek re-election after 1952 primary setbacks), Herbert Hoover (defeated in 1932 re-election bid), Woodrow Wilson (won by narrower margin in 1916 than in 1912) and William Howard Taft (ran third in 1912 re-election bid).

Significantly, Rove’s man, George W. Bush won his 2004 re-election run with just 286 electoral votes, and faced serious challenges to the result in the state that put him across the 270 line: Ohio.

Numbers from Obama's Landslide victory

posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 08:23 AM
reply to post by Jaellma

Mr Rove seems to forget that the GOP have only won the majority vote once out of the past six elections.

posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 08:44 AM
You picked four lousy presidents to compare him to. And yes, Kennedy wasn't the best. He was good in some things (taxes, space program) .. but he also screwed up with the Bay of Pigs. You can say that Obama won bigger than Kennedy, Nixon, Carter or Bush .. but he didn't come close to Reagan or Clinton. It's all a matter of how you want to see it I guess.

posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 08:46 AM
Yea, check this out,

What Luck! Obama Won Dozens of Cleveland Districts with 100% of the Vote

President Obama must have run a great campaign considering the tremendous numbers he put up in numerous big cities. Over in Philadelphia, he was lucky enough to get 90% percent turnout in some districts with over 99% of the vote.

In Cleveland, in some districts he did even better with an astounding 100% of the vote in dozens of locations. For example, in Cleveland's Fifth Ward, Mr. Obama won districts E, F, and G 1,337 to Mitt Romney's... 0. And in case you're wondering, Gary Johnson received more votes than Mr. Romney.

Well, maybe that's just a fluke. In the Ninth Ward, Mr. Obama won districts D-G with a paltry total of 1,740 to... 3. Hey, at least Romney got .2% of the vote!
Okay, what if we look at an entire Ward? No way this trend continues, right? An entire ward. Why not do the First Ward? Obama won that one 12,857 to... 94. This time Romney got .7% of the vote. He's moving up in the world!

In total, there are 21 districts in Cleveland where Mr. Romney received precisely 0 votes. In 23 districts, he received precisely 1 vote. And naturally, in one of the districts where Obama won 100% of the vote, there was 100% turnout. What a coincidence!

By the way, in case you are thinking that Romney did so poorly because maybe those districts were not very populated: Nope. In those 44 districts, Mr. Obama won 14,686 to 23. That's .16% of the vote for Romney.

amazing isn't it?

posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 09:30 AM
reply to post by Stormdancer777

For example, in Cleveland's Fifth Ward, Mr. Obama won districts E, F, and G 1,337 to Mitt Romney's..

Are you trying to hint at some sort of voter fraud? The numbers seem right to me...

Cleveland has a huge black population, which voted for Obama 97% nationwide. Plus a large amount poor urban white people, who tend to be democrats, along with Puerto Ricans.

Why would they vote for Romney after the 47% comment? Good to see a huge part of Cleveland aren't fools.

edit on 9-11-2012 by Trustfund because: (no reason given)

posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 09:38 AM
reply to post by Trustfund

Are you trying to hint at some sort of voter fraud?

Now would I do that?

Well I never!

I get to pick on you guys for ,
four more years,
four more years,

just kidding.
edit on 093030p://bFriday2012 by Stormdancer777 because: (no reason given)

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