Gee Whiz: Mom Gets ($2,500) Fine After Toddler Pees in Yard [UPDATED], page 5


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reply posted on 9-11-2012 @ 11:21 AM by RogerT3
Originally posted by DaTroof
reply to
post by Wertdagf




The ticket isn't just for public urination.

The officer later amended the complaint to contributing to the delinquency of a minor. Oblein said he is waiting for word from the district attorney’s office as to whether they will pursue the complaint, but he doesn’t think it will go any further. Read more: newsok.com...



OMG, can't believe the first few replies are in support of law enforcement of 3 year olds urinating on their parents land. I'm guessing this was in the USA, right, where you get fined for brown grass and no doubt having crooked teeth

This whole thing is soooo wrong in soooo many ways.

So glad to live in Europe where pissing in your own garden is considered beneficial to plants and not a f'n crime.


reply posted on 9-11-2012 @ 11:31 AM by eletheia
reply to post by HandyDandy





Yes and there are nude statues in galleries and other places but i dont want to see

my neighbours standing around their gardens or anywhere else like that!!


reply posted on 9-11-2012 @ 11:34 AM by jonnywhite
reply to post by liejunkie01


I agree with you.

All this does is make people hate the system more.

Either that or it makes them more subservient and blind and .... 1984 here we come. I hate to use 1984 as an example, but any police state system will do. Authoritarianism. Tyranny.

We may as well create robots to replace us. They'll be better in every way. Robots love to follow rules. That's their whole purpose in life. Humans are sloppier and make too many mistakes.

But that's not exactly how it will happen...

We'll become more and more like robots and lose our emotions and spontaneity. Robots won't replace us, we'll just slowly transform to become like them as we merge with their nature.
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reply posted on 9-11-2012 @ 11:48 AM by RogerT3
Originally posted by sdcigarpig


The officer went a bit over board on the ticket, yes, but at the same time, based off of what could be stated, or not stated, as there was no indication, is what was the mothers reaction when the officer stopped and knocked on the door or approached her about such. If she blew up and started to get irate or even have no manners, It appears that it escalated badly and ultimately that the officer issued a ticket based off of what all transpired. But there is one other little detail that is over looked, the actual law in the state of Oklahoma as follows:

A. Every person who willfully and knowingly either:
1. Lewdly exposes his or her person or genitals in any public place, or in any place where there are present other persons to be offended or annoyed thereby; provided, however, for purposes of this section, a person alleged to have committed an act of public urination shall be prosecuted pursuant to Section 22 of this title unless such act was accompanied with another act that violates paragraphs 2 through 4 of this subsection and shall not be subject to registration under the Sex Offenders Registration Act;
2. Procures, counsels, or assists any person to expose such person, or to make any other exhibition of such person to public view or to the view of any number of persons, for the purpose of sexual stimulation of the viewer;
3. Writes, composes, stereotypes, prints, photographs, designs, copies, draws, engraves, paints, molds, cuts, or otherwise prepares, publishes, sells, distributes, keeps for sale, knowingly downloads on a computer, or exhibits any obscene material or child pornography; or
4. Makes, prepares, cuts, sells, gives, loans, distributes, keeps for sale, or exhibits any disc record, metal, plastic, or wax, wire or tape recording, or any type of obscene material or child pornography,

shall be guilty, upon conviction, of a felony and shall be punished by the imposition of a fine of not less than Five Hundred Dollars ($500.00) nor more than Twenty Thousand Dollars ($20,000.00) or by imprisonment for not less than thirty (30) days nor more than ten (10) years, or by both such fine and imprisonment.

So while the officer and the situation may seem wrong, the law is very clear cut in this case.
The final question has to be asked: Had the young child not been in full public view at the time, then would this have been a news worth event?


You're kidding right?

How is a 3 year old being lewd by emptying their bladder in the garden?

Lewd: Preoccupied with sex and sexual desire; lustful. b. Obscene; indecent.

Obviously it isn't sexually preoccupied action, and if you guys think this is obscene or indecent .... welcome to America, Land of the Pee, Home of the Prude!
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reply posted on 9-11-2012 @ 01:55 PM by MystikMushroom
reply to post by eletheia



Hey no, don't you bash on the sacred young male ritual of pee-off competitions!

Once you graduate from that, urine artwork in snow is the next logical step.

BTW, your avatar creeps me out! That entire commercial on TV creeps me out. Dogs should *NOT* have human teeth! My girlfriend teases me everytime that commercial comes on.

(Just trying to inject a little humor here into the discussion)
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