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Originally posted by 0bserver1
reply to post by gortex
what examples can you give to substantiate your theory?edit on 9-11-2012 by 0bserver1 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Char-Lee
Originally posted by gortex
The one filmed by the camera crew is looks like a bird loosing height , the video filmed by the guy in the report are in my opinion most likely insects .
Just my opinion .
It seems an experienced TV camera man would know if it were bugs in front of his camera.
Originally posted by Uberdavo
Have to love how people jump onto these threads and claim with absolute certainty they know it is a bug or this or that. You do not know what it is so just STOP. What is with the attacks on the guys arm hair? Really? that is what you lower yourself too?
Originally posted by jessejamesxx
Watch the video closely at 1:20, 1:36. As or after the object flies by, there is a brief flash of pretty much the same object super close to the lens (or just HUGE, but I sincerely doubt that).
The fact that FOX didn't even mention the possibility of it being a bug, and mentions every other possibility, leads me to believe that they were just playing along with the guy filming and using their false naivety to get ratings.
There are parts where they make it look like it's landing in front of trees, but it doesn't actually go behind anything.
IMO, they use creative editing and play dumb to garner ratings. It's a hoax on FOX's part, maybe not so much the original photographer's.
Originally posted by grantbeed
If it's bugs then wouldnt they be visible all during the day, or for lots of the day, and not just after lunch time? And if it's bugs, why is there just 1 in the footage?
I'm leaning towards something man made, but it's definatly the most interesting UFO footage ive seen in a long time.
Originally posted by Screwed
Ohhh this is rich.
This is just a dandy.
I LOVE LOVE LOVE how there is an AVIATION EXPERT who can NOT identify what it is yet there is no shortage of ATS "Experts" who have it all figured out.
A trash bag?
Bugs?
I mean, REALLY?!?!?
Do you just completely IGNORE the fact that trash bags and bugs can NOT move that fast nor can they be relied upon to show up at the same time of day in the SAME spot everyday?!?!?
I mean talk about picking and choosing what you want to hear and what you don't.
I understand that this is really REALLY hard to incorporate into your current understanding of the way in which the world/universe operates but you are going to really have to come to terms with this sort of thing because, if you haven't noticed, it is happening more and more lately and there is fast approaching a day when you will no longer be afforded the opportunity to waller in your willfully ignorant state of denial.
I'm guessing the Aviation expert considered and RULED OUT things like bugs and trash bags.
Who in the name of Christ allmighty do you think YOU are to propose such silliness when we can see with our own eyes that whatever it is, is moving MUCH too fast, way too reflective, and way too predictable, to be a trash bag or a bug???
Come on now REALLY?!?!?
It's ok if you are scared of your current world view changing.
Really, it is.
But please don't get on here and spew out a bunch of nonsense which totally insults the intelligence of those who are OK with their world view being shattered.
This is HUGE!
Things are getting ready to blow WIDE open here soon.
I for one, can't wait.
And when A UFO lands on the White House lawn I am going to laugh my ass off at the first person to suggest that it may be a trash bag.edit on 9-11-2012 by Screwed because: (no reason given)edit on 9-11-2012 by Screwed because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Screwed
Originally posted by reject
they should set up a high speed (1k frames/sec) high definition camera to see if its a bug.
Really?
Why?
They could also set up a high speed camera to see if it is a Gerbal launched out of Richard Gears ass but I would think that if that scenario was even remotely plausable then an Aviation EXPERT would have considered it and put it forward as a possibility.
Am I in the Twilight Zone or something?
Are there really people HERE of all places, who are too afraid to admit that they are less qualified to asess this video than an aviation expert?
Here, let me lead by example.
ahemm,
I am less qualified to assess this video or speculate on what the object IN this video may be than the Aviations Expert seen IN the video is. This does not mean I am stupid nor ignorant, it only means that I do not posess the qualifications this man posesses and it also means that he is MORE qualified that I am to assess this video.
You can do it.
it's ok.edit on 9-11-2012 by Screwed because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Screwed
Welp, I give up.
In spite of this object showing up at predictable times each day,
In spite of the reflection coming off of it,
In spite of the fact that I CAN SEE it tumbling
In spite of the speed at which it moves,
In spite of the fact that NO ONE ELSE can come to a conclusion as to what it is, not the least of these being an Aviation Expert
The concensus amoungst the most brilliant minds here on ATS seems to be that it is merely a bug.
Well, there you have it.
end of thread.
I would actually appreciate some one setting up some better, more advanced equipment so we can at least get a bead on whether or not it is man made. But, really there would be no point since it is just a bug in a trash bag.
Originally posted by mrnotobc
What kind of insect blows fire out it's ass?
Fire fly?
Originally posted by ilikestarz
I just find it VERY hard to believe that a news crew showed up, interviewed this guy, shot their own footage, and contacted a specialist because NONE OF THEM NOTICED BUGS FLYING AROUND. I mean come on. I understand how erratic movement and blurry images can point to that, but these people, the video journalist especially, almost certainly knows the difference between a UFO and a horse fly.
Originally posted by grantbeed
I still dont get it. If it's insects, why are the crews only finding them around lunchtime?
Do they take a lunch break and go for a lunchtime fly?
If it were insects you should see them for more than just that time of day and probably see many more of them as well.
Interesting vid, but im leaning towards a man made device
Originally posted by MachXX
reply to post by gortex
For crying out loud....it is not insects or bugs!! The reporter lady already told you that the aviation expert doesn't believe they're bugs, and obviously, the professional camera man from Fox who did the followup filming did'nt think they were bugs.....she stated this many times at the end of the video. If you look at the footage, there are many times you see a shiny object.....bugs are NOT shiny (yes, maybe lightning bugs at night LOL).
The only other possible explanation is that the reporter is in on the hoax. Maybe not explicitly. Maybe she AND the aviation expert (and camera man) all are secretly colluding to sell this UFO story. Of course, they are just putting their professional reputations on the line for a silly UFO story? For ratings? That's a flash in the pan for ratings.....up one day, gone the next. I don't buy it. I really do think it's a genuine mystery.
It's obviously not a plane or helicopter....can fly like that with such incredibly erratic movements. My next best guess is a radio controlled (RC) plane or toy......but again, the movements are too erratic for even that.
Originally posted by 0bserver1
For the wise@sses around here who still watch bugs life on a daily basis....
Do BUGS reflect light in a metallic kind of way ??????
Originally posted by Power_Semi
Originally posted by mc4denmark
Originally posted by Power_Semi
Of course it's just insects for crying out loud.
I know some of you are absolutely desperate to believe in UFOs and little green men, but honestly, what would be the point of flying around 1 particular (and rather uninteresting) city at the same time every day.
If they've come here from the far flung reaches of the universe and can travel faster than the speed of sound with no sonic boom, then they don't need "thrusters".
It's as plain as the nose on your face, but sadly people just see what they want to see.
We laugh at the people from our past (or people in other parts of the world today) for believing in witchcraft and the like, and here we have a forum where a large chunk of the people believe in horoscopes, astrology, demons, spirit dimensions, and all of the rest, and it's clear to see from the lack of objectivity, or rather where the will to believe in something over-rides the obvious facts, that today we are not hundreds of years more advanced than the witchhunters of the past, but are actually a mere fraction of a millimeter away from them.
Funny you mention we laugh at spirit dimension. Since more scientist in the Quantum field actually are beginning to accept that we have a energy or soul if you will. And also there are more physicist whom are open to the possibility of multiple universes.
It is a fact that there are multiple frequency’s that we cant see with our eyes.
Maybe you should try to be more open-minded.edit on 11-11-2012 by mc4denmark because: (no reason given)
I am an electronics engineer and have more comprehension, clearly, than you of what frequencies means.
The comment that there are "multiple frequencies" that we can't see with our eyes is so laughable that if you only knew how uneducated you were you'd laugh too.
As for "more scientists in the quantum field accepting we have an energy or soul" - what utter tripe - who are they and what exactly have they said exactly because:
1) No quantum scientist of any repute has ever said that;
2) At best this is a case of an uneducated person deliberately misinterpreting a scientific persons comments;
3) Quantum mechanics is only a theory, not a fact;
Multiple universes have NOTHING to do with the nonsensical gibberish that is "spirit dimensions" - you are unwittingly to you proving my point - you personally are less than 1mm away from burning someone at the stake for witchcraft.
NEXTedit on 11-11-2012 by Power_Semi because: (no reason given)edit on 11-11-2012 by Power_Semi because: (no reason given)edit on 11-11-2012 by Power_Semi because: (no reason given)
"Multiple universes have NOTHING to do with the nonsensical gibberish that is "spirit dimensions" - you are unwittingly to you proving my point - you personally are less than 1mm away from burning someone at the stake for witchcraft."