More footage of UFOs over Denver. Baffles aviation experts.

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posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 10:30 AM
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Originally posted by 0bserver1
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what examples can you give to substantiate your theory?
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Go sit in a backyard during midday on a sunny day and with your own eyes you can see these wonderful UFOs




posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 10:35 AM
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Originally posted by Char-Lee

Originally posted by gortex
The one filmed by the camera crew is looks like a bird loosing height , the video filmed by the guy in the report are in my opinion most likely insects .
Just my opinion .


It seems an experienced TV camera man would know if it were bugs in front of his camera.


Seriously do people not understand about TV ratings, The camera man and the aviation expert most likely do know its bugs and were maybe recorded saying its just bugs, however after editing the interviews and footage for the public who would get excited about insects being caught on film, no one but we can fool the gullible and increase ratings.

Why is it so hard to understand.



posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 10:39 AM
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Originally posted by Uberdavo
Have to love how people jump onto these threads and claim with absolute certainty they know it is a bug or this or that. You do not know what it is so just STOP. What is with the attacks on the guys arm hair? Really? that is what you lower yourself too?




What make you so certain that some posters in this thread don't know exactly what was filmed?



posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 10:41 AM
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Originally posted by jessejamesxx
Watch the video closely at 1:20, 1:36. As or after the object flies by, there is a brief flash of pretty much the same object super close to the lens (or just HUGE, but I sincerely doubt that).

The fact that FOX didn't even mention the possibility of it being a bug, and mentions every other possibility, leads me to believe that they were just playing along with the guy filming and using their false naivety to get ratings.

There are parts where they make it look like it's landing in front of trees, but it doesn't actually go behind anything.

IMO, they use creative editing and play dumb to garner ratings. It's a hoax on FOX's part, maybe not so much the original photographer's.





Thank You Sir/Madam

Finally another person from the real world of logic and rationality,

star for you



posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 10:49 AM
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Originally posted by grantbeed
If it's bugs then wouldnt they be visible all during the day, or for lots of the day, and not just after lunch time? And if it's bugs, why is there just 1 in the footage?

I'm leaning towards something man made, but it's definatly the most interesting UFO footage ive seen in a long time.



Good questions, How do know they are not visible all day?

Did you watch the footage? There is a hell of lot more than just one bug



posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 10:57 AM
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Originally posted by Screwed
Ohhh this is rich.
This is just a dandy.

I LOVE LOVE LOVE how there is an AVIATION EXPERT who can NOT identify what it is yet there is no shortage of ATS "Experts" who have it all figured out.

A trash bag?
Bugs?

I mean, REALLY?!?!?
Do you just completely IGNORE the fact that trash bags and bugs can NOT move that fast nor can they be relied upon to show up at the same time of day in the SAME spot everyday?!?!?

I mean talk about picking and choosing what you want to hear and what you don't.

I understand that this is really REALLY hard to incorporate into your current understanding of the way in which the world/universe operates but you are going to really have to come to terms with this sort of thing because, if you haven't noticed, it is happening more and more lately and there is fast approaching a day when you will no longer be afforded the opportunity to waller in your willfully ignorant state of denial.

I'm guessing the Aviation expert considered and RULED OUT things like bugs and trash bags.
Who in the name of Christ allmighty do you think YOU are to propose such silliness when we can see with our own eyes that whatever it is, is moving MUCH too fast, way too reflective, and way too predictable, to be a trash bag or a bug???

Come on now REALLY?!?!?

It's ok if you are scared of your current world view changing.
Really, it is.
But please don't get on here and spew out a bunch of nonsense which totally insults the intelligence of those who are OK with their world view being shattered.

This is HUGE!
Things are getting ready to blow WIDE open here soon.
I for one, can't wait.
And when A UFO lands on the White House lawn I am going to laugh my ass off at the first person to suggest that it may be a trash bag.
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How fast can an insect fly?

How fast would it look like if an insect flew past the lens of a camera when it was focused on something in the distance?

Try answering these questions for yourself and if you still think as you do well thats good for you.



posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 11:02 AM
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Originally posted by Screwed

Originally posted by reject
they should set up a high speed (1k frames/sec) high definition camera to see if its a bug.



Really?
Why?
They could also set up a high speed camera to see if it is a Gerbal launched out of Richard Gears ass but I would think that if that scenario was even remotely plausable then an Aviation EXPERT would have considered it and put it forward as a possibility.

Am I in the Twilight Zone or something?
Are there really people HERE of all places, who are too afraid to admit that they are less qualified to asess this video than an aviation expert?

Here, let me lead by example.

ahemm,

I am less qualified to assess this video or speculate on what the object IN this video may be than the Aviations Expert seen IN the video is. This does not mean I am stupid nor ignorant, it only means that I do not posess the qualifications this man posesses and it also means that he is MORE qualified that I am to assess this video.

You can do it.
it's ok.
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I am less qualified in aviation than an aviation expert, however when it comes to analyzing footage an aviation expert and the bum down the street have about the same credibility.

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posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 11:06 AM
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What kind of insect blows fire out it's ass?




Fire fly?



posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 11:07 AM
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I posted that pic as a random choice of an insect with a iredescent colour it wasn't ment to be the object on camera, it was to answer a claim that no insect had a metalic looking sheen that was all.

In my post I even stated that there was lots to choose from !!!!



posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 11:09 AM
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Originally posted by Screwed

Welp, I give up.

In spite of this object showing up at predictable times each day,

In spite of the reflection coming off of it,

In spite of the fact that I CAN SEE it tumbling

In spite of the speed at which it moves,

In spite of the fact that NO ONE ELSE can come to a conclusion as to what it is, not the least of these being an Aviation Expert

The concensus amoungst the most brilliant minds here on ATS seems to be that it is merely a bug.
Well, there you have it.

end of thread.

I would actually appreciate some one setting up some better, more advanced equipment so we can at least get a bead on whether or not it is man made. But, really there would be no point since it is just a bug in a trash bag.


If you know how fast these things are moving why not share with us.

If there was nothing to do with aviation in the said footage why ask a aviation expert?

Do you ask your butcher to service car and your mechanic to clean your house?



posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 11:10 AM
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Originally posted by mrnotobc
What kind of insect blows fire out it's ass?


Fire fly?


Who mentioned fire but if you want one here goes




posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 11:20 AM
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Originally posted by ilikestarz
I just find it VERY hard to believe that a news crew showed up, interviewed this guy, shot their own footage, and contacted a specialist because NONE OF THEM NOTICED BUGS FLYING AROUND. I mean come on. I understand how erratic movement and blurry images can point to that, but these people, the video journalist especially, almost certainly knows the difference between a UFO and a horse fly.


UFO, Unidentified Flying Object.

How do you know the difference between something when you don't know what one of the things are?

Seriously ATS has all critical thinking been throw out in preparation for our upcoming doomsday or something



posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 11:23 AM
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Originally posted by grantbeed
I still dont get it. If it's insects, why are the crews only finding them around lunchtime?


Do they take a lunch break and go for a lunchtime fly?

If it were insects you should see them for more than just that time of day and probably see many more of them as well.

Interesting vid, but im leaning towards a man made device


Again, how do know that they are not visible all day and FOX news is playing on the gullible minds of the US



posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 11:33 AM
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Originally posted by MachXX
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For crying out loud....it is not insects or bugs!! The reporter lady already told you that the aviation expert doesn't believe they're bugs, and obviously, the professional camera man from Fox who did the followup filming did'nt think they were bugs.....she stated this many times at the end of the video. If you look at the footage, there are many times you see a shiny object.....bugs are NOT shiny (yes, maybe lightning bugs at night LOL).

The only other possible explanation is that the reporter is in on the hoax. Maybe not explicitly. Maybe she AND the aviation expert (and camera man) all are secretly colluding to sell this UFO story. Of course, they are just putting their professional reputations on the line for a silly UFO story? For ratings? That's a flash in the pan for ratings.....up one day, gone the next. I don't buy it. I really do think it's a genuine mystery.

It's obviously not a plane or helicopter....can fly like that with such incredibly erratic movements. My next best guess is a radio controlled (RC) plane or toy......but again, the movements are too erratic for even that.


Cry as much as you want, it does not change the fact that about 80% of people replying to this thread have been bamboozled, theyve been lied too, hoaxed or the reporters reporting this are dumber than dog poop



posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 11:35 AM
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Originally posted by 0bserver1
For the wise@sses around here who still watch bugs life on a daily basis....


Do BUGS reflect light in a metallic kind of way ??????


Short answer, Yes, some bugs do



posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 11:57 AM
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Originally posted by Power_Semi

Originally posted by mc4denmark

Originally posted by Power_Semi
Of course it's just insects for crying out loud.

I know some of you are absolutely desperate to believe in UFOs and little green men, but honestly, what would be the point of flying around 1 particular (and rather uninteresting) city at the same time every day.

If they've come here from the far flung reaches of the universe and can travel faster than the speed of sound with no sonic boom, then they don't need "thrusters".

It's as plain as the nose on your face, but sadly people just see what they want to see.

We laugh at the people from our past (or people in other parts of the world today) for believing in witchcraft and the like, and here we have a forum where a large chunk of the people believe in horoscopes, astrology, demons, spirit dimensions, and all of the rest, and it's clear to see from the lack of objectivity, or rather where the will to believe in something over-rides the obvious facts, that today we are not hundreds of years more advanced than the witchhunters of the past, but are actually a mere fraction of a millimeter away from them.


Funny you mention we laugh at spirit dimension. Since more scientist in the Quantum field actually are beginning to accept that we have a energy or soul if you will. And also there are more physicist whom are open to the possibility of multiple universes.

It is a fact that there are multiple frequency’s that we cant see with our eyes.

Maybe you should try to be more open-minded.
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I am an electronics engineer and have more comprehension, clearly, than you of what frequencies means.

The comment that there are "multiple frequencies" that we can't see with our eyes is so laughable that if you only knew how uneducated you were you'd laugh too.

As for "more scientists in the quantum field accepting we have an energy or soul" - what utter tripe - who are they and what exactly have they said exactly because:

1) No quantum scientist of any repute has ever said that;
2) At best this is a case of an uneducated person deliberately misinterpreting a scientific persons comments;
3) Quantum mechanics is only a theory, not a fact;

Multiple universes have NOTHING to do with the nonsensical gibberish that is "spirit dimensions" - you are unwittingly to you proving my point - you personally are less than 1mm away from burning someone at the stake for witchcraft.

NEXT
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You should probably try to find a new field of expertise.

You might find it laughable, but its still the truth
The colours of the rainbow is very good example on how many frequencies the eye cant tune in - and Everything in the world is vibration at a frequency, even down in subatomic levels.

Maybe you should read the book Molecular Theory of the Living Cell: Concepts, Molecular Mechanisms, and Biomedical Applications - which might open yours eyes.

Well, Stephen Hawking and Leonard Mlodinow both support the theory of multiple universes




"Multiple universes have NOTHING to do with the nonsensical gibberish that is "spirit dimensions" - you are unwittingly to you proving my point - you personally are less than 1mm away from burning someone at the stake for witchcraft."


Well, I guess you must have a lot of unknown knowledge about the universe an all it in for you to say that. With the knowledge available to us at the moment, there’s still a good possibility of energies existing on another level of vibrations than ours.


Well, come again friend



posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 12:04 PM
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"American Dr Stuart Hameroff and British physicist Sir Roger Penrose developed a quantum theory of consciousness asserting that our souls are contained inside structures called microtubules which live within our brain cells."

Now this is just in the baby phase and of cause a theory, but as I said, scientist are beginning to open op for the possibility of energy that drive us.
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posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 12:15 PM
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Mate, you're straying dangerously close to trolling.

After an almost continuous stream of posts from you, i don't think there's a single person reading this thread who's left in ANY doubt that you're convinced this is NOT a machine of some type..good for you, now if you don't mind those of us who aren't as astute or as safe in our beliefs as you evidently are, wouldn't mind posting our opinions without getting ambushed by you for our troubles...thanks.

I don't claim to know what this object is, but IMO...it's not a bug, just looking at the video carefully shows this to be self evident to me.

It MAY be a sophisticated RC toy craft of some type...i've seen RC jets move as fast but there's not a chance a jet could pull off those sharp, almost 90 degree turns and loops with such a small area to manoever in.

It MAY be some sophisticated military drone of some type..but very unlikely due to it zipping around the burbs, seemingly landing and ascending in a housing area.

No sound has been reported accompanying this thing...which would seem to rule out both an RC toy or drone as being the culprit, although it's still possible, however unlikey, that a drone may be using some ultra high tech drive system which makes no noise, or very little at least.

Here's what bothers me about this entire story:

Nobody has said, including the aviation expert, the anonymous videographer, or the onsite news team, that they went down into the housing estate, and observed this thing in the vacinity of where it seems to land or take off...why not?

Having apparently seen this for themselves, all the witnesses so far are reportedly 'baffled' as to what it could be (having positively ruled out BUGS, birds, conventional aircraft, RC toys)...yet nobody has thought it would be a good idea to set up 3 or 4 (or more) top of the line, very high speed cameras placed in different locations in order to triangulate the objects position and relative size and speed...capturing it on film or tape from a few different locations simultaneously, will show it's position, size and speed...why hasn't this been done?

Truthfully, we don't know what this is (well, most of don't)...yet. Not much point in arguing the bug/no bug, drone/no drone, plastic bag/no plastic bag until more evidence comes to light.

It's interesting whatever it turns out to be.



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posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 02:48 PM
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Is the truth going to be released at the end of 2012? A lot of sightings around lately and that marketing event Microsoft pulled off by flying a saucer over London..



posted on Nov, 11 2012 @ 03:03 PM
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They don't have the original footage. They were not there. The images are very blurry. They do not have super dooper magic eyes. They are not psychic. They may have a very good theory of what they think it may be, but they do not KNOW.





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