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Originally posted by Stormdancer777
reply to post by Quadrivium
He is right, by the time this term is over it will be too late.
And in my mind this is the plan make us dependent and subservient.
Originally posted by Swills
Originally posted by Americanist
reply to post by SageBeno
Ron and Rand are watered down like the rest of them. Their supporters turned them into instant millionaires, so they should do us all a favor and both retire. It'll give them plenty of time to catch up on the 9/11's.
This was posted earlier today:
You've all been witness to an organized diversion - accumulating hard assets with little or no effort involved. Label it banking, monarchy, oligarchy, divide and conquer... It doesn't matter at this point. The trickery doesn't work, nor will holding onto its spoils.
Game Over Man.edit on 8-11-2012 by Americanist because: (no reason given)
Care to explain how Ron Paul made millions off his supporters? I do believe Ron Paul was one of the only candidates who wasn't in debt when he stopped campaigning so are you saying he kept all that money in his campaign fund? A retirement plan, if you would. If so, you got any links?
Originally posted by Americanist
Originally posted by Swills
Originally posted by Americanist
reply to post by SageBeno
Ron and Rand are watered down like the rest of them. Their supporters turned them into instant millionaires, so they should do us all a favor and both retire. It'll give them plenty of time to catch up on the 9/11's.
This was posted earlier today:
You've all been witness to an organized diversion - accumulating hard assets with little or no effort involved. Label it banking, monarchy, oligarchy, divide and conquer... It doesn't matter at this point. The trickery doesn't work, nor will holding onto its spoils.
Game Over Man.edit on 8-11-2012 by Americanist because: (no reason given)
Care to explain how Ron Paul made millions off his supporters? I do believe Ron Paul was one of the only candidates who wasn't in debt when he stopped campaigning so are you saying he kept all that money in his campaign fund? A retirement plan, if you would. If so, you got any links?
Care to explain how he didn't? I'm familiar with setting budgets and showing deficits for accounting purposes. Unfortunately, I'm not their accountant, so I have to rely on common sense factors. The campaign pulled in serious cash. Retirement, slush fund, etc., etc., if you would.
Originally posted by The_Phantom
Originally posted by Americanist
Originally posted by Swills
Originally posted by Americanist
reply to post by SageBeno
Ron and Rand are watered down like the rest of them. Their supporters turned them into instant millionaires, so they should do us all a favor and both retire. It'll give them plenty of time to catch up on the 9/11's.
This was posted earlier today:
You've all been witness to an organized diversion - accumulating hard assets with little or no effort involved. Label it banking, monarchy, oligarchy, divide and conquer... It doesn't matter at this point. The trickery doesn't work, nor will holding onto its spoils.
Game Over Man.edit on 8-11-2012 by Americanist because: (no reason given)
Care to explain how Ron Paul made millions off his supporters? I do believe Ron Paul was one of the only candidates who wasn't in debt when he stopped campaigning so are you saying he kept all that money in his campaign fund? A retirement plan, if you would. If so, you got any links?
Care to explain how he didn't? I'm familiar with setting budgets and showing deficits for accounting purposes. Unfortunately, I'm not their accountant, so I have to rely on common sense factors. The campaign pulled in serious cash. Retirement, slush fund, etc., etc., if you would.
You know your talking about the guy that doesn't even take his full salary from Congress? He gives it back to the Treasury. I hope you have some evidence for your claim.
Originally posted by Americanist
Originally posted by The_Phantom
Originally posted by Americanist
Originally posted by Swills
Originally posted by Americanist
reply to post by SageBeno
Ron and Rand are watered down like the rest of them. Their supporters turned them into instant millionaires, so they should do us all a favor and both retire. It'll give them plenty of time to catch up on the 9/11's.
This was posted earlier today:
You've all been witness to an organized diversion - accumulating hard assets with little or no effort involved. Label it banking, monarchy, oligarchy, divide and conquer... It doesn't matter at this point. The trickery doesn't work, nor will holding onto its spoils.
Game Over Man.edit on 8-11-2012 by Americanist because: (no reason given)
Care to explain how Ron Paul made millions off his supporters? I do believe Ron Paul was one of the only candidates who wasn't in debt when he stopped campaigning so are you saying he kept all that money in his campaign fund? A retirement plan, if you would. If so, you got any links?
Care to explain how he didn't? I'm familiar with setting budgets and showing deficits for accounting purposes. Unfortunately, I'm not their accountant, so I have to rely on common sense factors. The campaign pulled in serious cash. Retirement, slush fund, etc., etc., if you would.
You know your talking about the guy that doesn't even take his full salary from Congress? He gives it back to the Treasury. I hope you have some evidence for your claim.
I'll look as soon as you find evidence to the contrary. I'm sure we can agree congressional salaries are fairly decent along with lifetime pensions right?
Originally posted by Americanist
Originally posted by Swills
Originally posted by Americanist
reply to post by SageBeno
Ron and Rand are watered down like the rest of them. Their supporters turned them into instant millionaires, so they should do us all a favor and both retire. It'll give them plenty of time to catch up on the 9/11's.
This was posted earlier today:
You've all been witness to an organized diversion - accumulating hard assets with little or no effort involved. Label it banking, monarchy, oligarchy, divide and conquer... It doesn't matter at this point. The trickery doesn't work, nor will holding onto its spoils.
Game Over Man.edit on 8-11-2012 by Americanist because: (no reason given)
Care to explain how Ron Paul made millions off his supporters? I do believe Ron Paul was one of the only candidates who wasn't in debt when he stopped campaigning so are you saying he kept all that money in his campaign fund? A retirement plan, if you would. If so, you got any links?
Care to explain how he didn't? I'm familiar with setting budgets and showing deficits for accounting purposes. Unfortunately, I'm not their accountant, so I have to rely on common sense factors. The campaign pulled in serious cash. Retirement, slush fund, etc., etc., if you would.
Originally posted by Americanist
Originally posted by The_Phantom
Originally posted by Americanist
Originally posted by Swills
Originally posted by Americanist
reply to post by SageBeno
Ron and Rand are watered down like the rest of them. Their supporters turned them into instant millionaires, so they should do us all a favor and both retire. It'll give them plenty of time to catch up on the 9/11's.
This was posted earlier today:
You've all been witness to an organized diversion - accumulating hard assets with little or no effort involved. Label it banking, monarchy, oligarchy, divide and conquer... It doesn't matter at this point. The trickery doesn't work, nor will holding onto its spoils.
Game Over Man.edit on 8-11-2012 by Americanist because: (no reason given)
Care to explain how Ron Paul made millions off his supporters? I do believe Ron Paul was one of the only candidates who wasn't in debt when he stopped campaigning so are you saying he kept all that money in his campaign fund? A retirement plan, if you would. If so, you got any links?
Care to explain how he didn't? I'm familiar with setting budgets and showing deficits for accounting purposes. Unfortunately, I'm not their accountant, so I have to rely on common sense factors. The campaign pulled in serious cash. Retirement, slush fund, etc., etc., if you would.
You know your talking about the guy that doesn't even take his full salary from Congress? He gives it back to the Treasury. I hope you have some evidence for your claim.
I'll look as soon as you find evidence to the contrary. I'm sure we can agree congressional salaries are fairly decent along with lifetime pensions right?
Ron Paul...the now 77 year old presidential candidate who ate pizza and value meals to save a few bucks on the campaign trail. The candidate that always worries about staying on budget and not wasting a penny. The candidate that promised to be transparent in his campaign spending and was able to report campaign spending down to the DOLLAR when the standard for other campaigns were reporting purchases made over $25.
I'm willing to bet that those extra $2million dollars are going to go towards helping win office seats for liberty candidates. In 2008, Ron Paul had a few million in the bank by the end of his campaign, he used that money to start Campaign For Liberty, which has played a crucial role in many 'liberty victories' in the past few years. Also started by Ron Paul was Young Americans for Liberty and Youth For Paul organizations which has hundreds of chapters across the nation and hundreds of thousands of members.
Ron Paul’s presidential hopes have long been over, but he’s still spending cash like a candidate.
Paul spent more than $588,000 in August to fund a range of activities and initiatives, from travel to consultants to maintaining a sizable staff, new federal financial disclosures show.
His presidential campaign ended August with more than $2 million in reserve, even taking in about $103,000 worth of contributions for the month, his report indicates.
That stands in stark contrast to fellow GOP also-rans Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum, both of whom continue to carry seven-figure debt from their presidential runs......
.....Among Paul’s August expenditures, according to his filing: $48,474 for rental fees at the Republican convention, nearly $25,000 in air charter expenses, about $21,000 for email services and $15,000 for a sponsorship for the Republican Party of Iowa.
Read more: www.politico.com...
I'm willing to bet that those extra $2million dollars are going to go towards helping win office seats for liberty candidates.
Originally posted by Swills
Originally posted by Americanist
Originally posted by Swills
Originally posted by Americanist
reply to post by SageBeno
Ron and Rand are watered down like the rest of them. Their supporters turned them into instant millionaires, so they should do us all a favor and both retire. It'll give them plenty of time to catch up on the 9/11's.
This was posted earlier today:
You've all been witness to an organized diversion - accumulating hard assets with little or no effort involved. Label it banking, monarchy, oligarchy, divide and conquer... It doesn't matter at this point. The trickery doesn't work, nor will holding onto its spoils.
Game Over Man.edit on 8-11-2012 by Americanist because: (no reason given)
Care to explain how Ron Paul made millions off his supporters? I do believe Ron Paul was one of the only candidates who wasn't in debt when he stopped campaigning so are you saying he kept all that money in his campaign fund? A retirement plan, if you would. If so, you got any links?
Care to explain how he didn't? I'm familiar with setting budgets and showing deficits for accounting purposes. Unfortunately, I'm not their accountant, so I have to rely on common sense factors. The campaign pulled in serious cash. Retirement, slush fund, etc., etc., if you would.
Well, you can assume all you want but do you have actual facts? Yes Ron Paul ran a well oiled budget and wasn't in debt so for this you demonize him? That's fair.. Let me ask you, do you like Ron Paul or do you despise him and his Paulites? Now to be fair I don't know what Ron Paul did with the money had left over but I'm going to assume he didn't bank it but probably did something proactive with it, like donate it or start some kind of fund or whatever. I'm sure a google search will give us the answers we seek, no?
So like I already asked before, got any links?
Originally posted by Americanist
reply to post by Swills
I'm willing to bet that those extra $2million dollars are going to go towards helping win office seats for liberty candidates.
I'm not going to bet, but there's certainly a great opportunity for him. You proved my point... $2 million surplus.
Originally posted by The_Phantom
Originally posted by Americanist
reply to post by Swills
I'm willing to bet that those extra $2million dollars are going to go towards helping win office seats for liberty candidates.
I'm not going to bet, but there's certainly a great opportunity for him. You proved my point... $2 million surplus.
Are you for real? Seriously, please tell me you didn't vote.
People donated to him for the purpose of using it for election funds, his election had a surplus, he then used that surplus for election funds.
You are trying to paint a picture as if he took if for himself...I just want to slam my face right into a wall.
Originally posted by Americanist
Originally posted by The_Phantom
Originally posted by Americanist
reply to post by Swills
I'm willing to bet that those extra $2million dollars are going to go towards helping win office seats for liberty candidates.
I'm not going to bet, but there's certainly a great opportunity for him. You proved my point... $2 million surplus.
Are you for real? Seriously, please tell me you didn't vote.
People donated to him for the purpose of using it for election funds, his election had a surplus, he then used that surplus for election funds.
You are trying to paint a picture as if he took if for himself...I just want to slam my face right into a wall.
No, common sense... He'll pipe it to Rand which is even worse.
Originally posted by Americanist
reply to post by Swills
I'm willing to bet that those extra $2million dollars are going to go towards helping win office seats for liberty candidates.
I'm not going to bet, but there's certainly a great opportunity for him. You proved my point... $2 million surplus.
Originally posted by Americanist
Originally posted by Swills
Originally posted by Americanist
Originally posted by Swills
Originally posted by Americanist
reply to post by SageBeno
Ron and Rand are watered down like the rest of them. Their supporters turned them into instant millionaires, so they should do us all a favor and both retire. It'll give them plenty of time to catch up on the 9/11's.
This was posted earlier today:
You've all been witness to an organized diversion - accumulating hard assets with little or no effort involved. Label it banking, monarchy, oligarchy, divide and conquer... It doesn't matter at this point. The trickery doesn't work, nor will holding onto its spoils.
Game Over Man.edit on 8-11-2012 by Americanist because: (no reason given)
Care to explain how Ron Paul made millions off his supporters? I do believe Ron Paul was one of the only candidates who wasn't in debt when he stopped campaigning so are you saying he kept all that money in his campaign fund? A retirement plan, if you would. If so, you got any links?
Care to explain how he didn't? I'm familiar with setting budgets and showing deficits for accounting purposes. Unfortunately, I'm not their accountant, so I have to rely on common sense factors. The campaign pulled in serious cash. Retirement, slush fund, etc., etc., if you would.
Well, you can assume all you want but do you have actual facts? Yes Ron Paul ran a well oiled budget and wasn't in debt so for this you demonize him? That's fair.. Let me ask you, do you like Ron Paul or do you despise him and his Paulites? Now to be fair I don't know what Ron Paul did with the money had left over but I'm going to assume he didn't bank it but probably did something proactive with it, like donate it or start some kind of fund or whatever. I'm sure a google search will give us the answers we seek, no?
So like I already asked before, got any links?
Like I said... He is a watered down version of what this country really needs. My advice: Retire and take Rick Perry with him.
Originally posted by Trexter Ziam
We went over the cliff in November 2008 - TARP!
TARP was the straw that broke the camel's back.
We should have just let the chips fall where they may back in November 2008, taken our medicine and gotten over it! We would be getting back on our feet by now if we had taken our medicine then. Now, the interest on the interest on the interest rtc. will make it so that we'll be third world for decades rather than months.