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Originally posted by charles1952
Please forgive my ignorance, but I never knew FOX had a religious viewpoint. They seem to be covering stories that their audience wants and which will get them visits, or viewers. Isn't that what they're supposed to do?
If they initiated a policy that said they would never post such pictures, would not people call "Censorship," and "As bad as the Taliban?"
FOX is a source of news, not my spiritual guide.
Originally posted by tothetenthpower
Ok...let me get this straight.
You don't think that conservative christians support sexy time?
They watch the superbowl don't they? They let their kids attend concerts liek Lady Gaga, The Disney Troop ( you know which ones I mean) and allow them to see hollywood movies.
The entire culture is sexualized and religious folk have NO problem with that. To say they do anymore in the 21st century is clearly nonsense.
Religious folks care about abortion and homosexuality when it comes to sex, everything else is fair game.
Fox is a conservative NEWS outlet, not a conservative VALUES outlet. They've never claimed any differently either.
The fact is that religious folk are far more likely to enjoy sexualized content from such a source, because then they don't have to justify it with their religion. They don't see it as sexualization, they see it as entertainment.
So yeah, Fox isn't a religious based place, never claimed to be, never was, never will be. They will ALWAYS pander to their core audience and their advertisers who want to sell you things. And mainly those advertisers use sex.
~Tenth
Originally posted by charles1952
reply to post by abeverage
Dear abeverage,
Thanks for your patience. I went through your sources (even though one of them featured a picture of Donald Trump), but I think I drew a different conclusion from yours.
The Donald Trump piece seemed to me to be an opinion article urging Christians to be tough and strong, and not let themselves be taken advantage of. Christ had a "meek and mild" side, but was also pretty nifty at flogging the money changers profaning the temple.
The Wiki piece seemed to be talking about the Religious Right. I got the impression that they were calling FOX a news source for that movement, rather than a religious news source.
You're right that suggestive photos may be a temptation to some, just as Scotch commercials, or Casino commercials might be. This is the world we live in, I don't support sin, but I know tempation exists. That might be why we were encouraged to be "As wise as serpents, as innocent as doves."
If I were to be upset with a news site, it might be one which makes it's reputation based on anger, hatred, and insults. Those are out there, as you know.
Perhaps I don't think of FOX in religious terms because I don't believe it has a large religious effect on me. I try for different news sources, but sometimes FOX has stories not seen elsewhere.
I hope I've answered your questions. If not, I'd be happy to try again.
With respect,
Charles1952
Originally posted by reisnoh
reply to post by abeverage
Foxnews like CNN, MSNBC or any other news site or agency are only concerned with one thing. That would be money, and if they can get ya to click a link with cleavage, hate or anything else for that matter they will. The days of real news are all but gone.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
This is a silly thread.
Christian men watch football and the cheerleaders in their skimpy outfits.
Christian men can appreciate a woman in a Victorias Secret ad.
Why not??
If women on FOX suddenly were head to toe covered, you would say
that they were ultra religious or something and complain about it .. right?
Side note ... I've noticed that Fox News has a lot of women on as anchors etc etc who are blonde and have short dresses. Guess that keeps with the general theme ...
Originally posted by jjkenobi
What does religion have to do with news? People like Fox news because it isn't Democratic talking points 24/7.
In 2009 under Mubarak, an administrative court in Cairo ruled in favor of a suit filed by an Islamist lawyer who argued that pornographic websites were destructive to Egyptian social values. The court ruled at the time that "freedoms of expression and public rights should be restricted by maintaining the fundamentals of religion, morality and patriotism," denouncing the websites in graphic terms.
Originally posted by charles1952
reply to post by abeverage
Dear Charles1952,
Perhaps the other posters may have answered better than I can. If I dissatisifed you once or twice already, I'm surprised you're coming back to this same old shop. But since you have, let me try again.
Where would you have us go? Which site provides thorough news without some objectionable content? Even ATS occasionally has ads as bad or worse than what you've pointed out. Some of the network programs advertised on their news programs are far worse than what Fox is displaying on theirs.
You're right, lust is a sin. Amazingly enough, some people can see those things and not lust, at least not in a Biblical way. Overcoming tempation is a daily task for the Christian, and loving God more than a photo is one way of overcoming.
But you are critical of FOX. Why? Are they breaking a promise to anyone? Are they doing something you believe no network should ever do? The government has set standards for what is acceptable, so has FOX. They keep within their guidelines.
I don't follow your logic in saying that whenever someone views FOX they are endorsing Victoria's Secret. If FOX having Victoria's Secret ads are bad, surely Victoria's Secret itself, is worse. Are you asking us to shut them down? No, because they don't claim to be Christian. Neither does FOX.
It just hit me. You seem to be saying that because FOX is concerned about morals it should have extra restrictions put on them. More restrictions than those networks that don't claim to have any morals at all. Have I figured that out? MSNBC can be slime because they've never claimed to be anything but slime?
Is that the root of our misunderstanding?
With respect,
Charles1952
Originally posted by charles1952I don't follow your logic in saying that whenever someone views FOX they are endorsing Victoria's Secret. If FOX having Victoria's Secret ads are bad, surely Victoria's Secret itself, is worse. Are you asking us to shut them down? No, because they don't claim to be Christian. Neither does FOX.
Originally posted by spinalremain
I don't understand the issue of religion at all when it comes to government.
I love Jesus, and I try to make myself a better person and do for others more than I do for myself, but I don't want any Christian fundamentalist anywhere in government. Why would you?
I'm secure enough in my beliefs to not want them forced on anyone. Isn't that what this country is founded upon? The belief that we are all entitled to whatever belief system we choose? The US was never intended to be a religious nation or a theocracy or anything like that.
We all have to come to terms with religion. It's a great for personal reasons and growth and such, but it creates nothing but problems the moment you begin to govern according to its doctrines. Wars are fought and fanatics come out to play when religion is involved.
Removing religion from government does not make a nation godless either. It just doesn't have to dictate what legislators do. One can have a wonderful relationship with their god and still govern secularly. The fact that we are a leading nation in terms of personal freedom means we should not drag the Bible through the mud in an attempt to politicize ideals or solutions. It's disturbing.
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Not once did I say FOX has a religious agenda, nor did I claim they are a Values outlet... No on the contrary I said they had an agenda with the large base of their viewership!
And thank you for helping me make my point to whom the is pandering is to, the same ones who blindly follow sports, lady Gaga and Disney LOL!
I am however asking a general question toward any Christians who do follow FOXNews and if this is in conflict with those beliefs. So are you Christian and does this conflict with your teachings, scriptures of beliefs? As I have heard this from Christians and I want to know
Originally posted by tothetenthpower
reply to post by abeverage
Not once did I say FOX has a religious agenda, nor did I claim they are a Values outlet... No on the contrary I said they had an agenda with the large base of their viewership!
All MSM have an agenda and they are all for a specific demographic. Fox for conservatives, CNN for centrists and MSNBC for the left.
Now of course that's not as cut and dry as I put it, but either way, the agenda is that of the advertisers. They pay the bills you know. Fox and all those other outlets would cease to exist without advertising revenue.
And thank you for helping me make my point to whom the is pandering is to, the same ones who blindly follow sports, lady Gaga and Disney LOL!
That's not a liberal/conservative split however. The ammount of people on both sides who are drawn to that kind of entertainment transcends religious or moral values in most cases.
Think about it for a moment. Do you like action movies? Then that conflicts with your peacefull religious beliefs.
Do you like a certain celebrity? That goes against your religious beliefs.
See how easy it is to be outside of what you believe when it comes to entertainment?
I am however asking a general question toward any Christians who do follow FOXNews and if this is in conflict with those beliefs. So are you Christian and does this conflict with your teachings, scriptures of beliefs? As I have heard this from Christians and I want to know
I am not a Christian. However it's to be said once again that media outlets transcend those barriers. Any and all of these outlets operate outside the norm of religious and moral values for most people. If only more people understood the doublethink and blatant propaganda being served to them, these places would cease to exist.
But in the end, it comes to down revenue and entertainment. These people make all their money via advertising, therefore advertisers make the rules. What's considered good entertainment at the moment is directly associated with how much advertising goes along with the product.
~Tenth