Russians have found Life on the Moon since 1970!, page 1


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Topic started on 8-11-2012 @ 01:40 PM by Arken
The Soviet Union's "Luna 16" and "Luna 20" spacecrafts has found Microorganisms into Moon regolith in 1970! I never known about this. Do you?

www.panspermia.org...# 1ref

On 24 September 1970 , for the first time, an unmanned spacecraft delivered a lunar "soil" sample to Earth. The Soviet Union's Luna 16 spacecraft returned from the moon's Sea of Fertility with 101 grams of lunar regolith in a hermetically sealed container (1). In February 1972, only 120 kilometers from the Luna 16 site, Luna 20 used a drill with a ten-inch, hollow-core bit to collect another regolith sample that was also hermetically sealed on the moon (2).

Luna 20: Fossils similar to modern coccoidal bacteria Siderococcus or Sulfolobus, lithified by metalic iron. (Upper scalebar = 1.2 micrometers).

[...] Further study of the photographs was later undertaken by two biologists at the Russian Academy of Sciences, Stanislav I. Zhmur, Institute of the Lithosphere of Marginal Seas, and Lyudmila M. Gerasimenko, Institute of Biology. They noticed that a few of the particles in the photographs were virtually identical to fossils of known biological species. Specifically, some spherical particles from the Luna 20 regolith plainly resemble fossils of modern coccoidal bacteria like Siderococcus or Sulfolobus in their scale, distribution, form, and the distortion of the spheres that occurs during fossilization.

Luna 16: A silicated fossil found in lunar regolith similar to modern spiral filamentous microorganisms such as Phormidium frigidum. Lunar microfossil resembling a spiral filamentous microorganism, from O.D. Rode et al., D. Reidel Publishing Co., 1979.

[...] the fossil's unmistakable resemblance to modern spiral filamentous microorganisms like Phormidium frigidum
Their new analysis of these particles was announced at an astrobiology conference in Denver, 20-22 July 1999, and published in the conference proceedings in December 1999 (4).

[...]The microfossils from the moon are different. Each Luna sample was encapsulated on the moon and opened only in a laboratory where examination commenced immediately. These fossils are solid evidence for ancient life elsewhere in space.


Oh my god....
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reply posted on 8-11-2012 @ 01:51 PM by LiberalSceptic
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Looks like what the Rover found on Mars.

Though the Martian spheres seems bigger.
These particular berries, measuring as much as one-eighth of an inch (3 millimeters) in diameter, cover an outcrop called Kirkwood in the Cape York segment of Endeavour Crater's western rim.

I wonder if it is connected in any way.
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reply posted on 8-11-2012 @ 02:00 PM by Myomistress
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What was your exact point upon replying in this thread if you honestly had nothing to add to the topic and obviously did not enjoy reading it? Just move on with your life, we don't need your unimpressed dialogue here.


Anyway, I kind of like the theory above. That these were just lifeforms on Earth at the time of the strike that after being shipped out into the vacuum of space became... Freeze dried for a better term and this is what's left. It would be quite interesting to actually explore the moon further for more things like this. If this were true, it could give us a whole lot more information about the history of our planet.


reply posted on 8-11-2012 @ 02:02 PM by BacknTime
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thats what they want you to believe.



reply posted on 8-11-2012 @ 02:05 PM by shaneslaughta
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I agree, with the whole of space at just above absolute zero its the perfect place to explore the truth behind the life on earth.
It could provide some valuable insight in to the evolution of life on earth.....The Truth Is Out There.


reply posted on 8-11-2012 @ 02:20 PM by shaneslaughta
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I agree, we don't know anything yet. In this infinite universe, holds infinite possibilities.


reply posted on 8-11-2012 @ 02:45 PM by eriktheawful
Originally posted by forall2see
Good read for sure

However, I recall something at least similar to this being brought up before. The end conclusion was scientists claiming the organisms to have originated here on Earth and somehow got mixed into the samples during the trip

Either way, I am confident that life exists elsewhere in our universe. We may as a species, simply not yet have the technology and expansive research to prove it.


Actually the article I linked to talks about that.

One of the dissenting opinions on that is, a piece of equipment brought back from the moon by the Apollo astronauts from our lunar surveyer that had spent 8 years on the moon had a single cell of a bacteria on it.

The idea was that it came from a "dirty" work bench originally here on the Earth. The funny thing about that is, this bacteria would have 750 million cells of it in a single drop of saliva, so finding only one on the equipment was strange in itself.

Being a skeptic, at the same time, I'm very open that life here on Earth may have been from somewhere else (Mars, an asteroid, etc, etc). Many arguments for it make a lot more sense to me than: it just happened. heh.

I think another good argument for it is what we see everyday here on our planet: life is tenacious! Just TRY and keep things from spreading. I battle life every spring and summer out in my yard and garden! Plants, bugs, you name it.
One kid goes to school sick, and 100 are home the next day sick with the same thing.

I brew my own beer at home, and making sure my equipment is sterile when I begin is important, but sometimes, no mater how careful I am, I get a "skunked" batch once in a while (wild yeast or bacteria got into it).

We've seen life go dormant when conditions are not good for it or hostile for it, only to see it come alive when conditions are made right again.

So for me, I think the idea that microfossiles can be found on the moon is not far fetched at all. I don't think it's because it started there however, nor thrived there, but was simply transplanted from somewhere else too.
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