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It does? Got a few examples?
If you really believed that, you'd have supported Obamacare enthusiastically.
And that phrase is from the Declaration of Independence anyway, not the Constitution.
You did see the phrase in there "provide for the general Welfare of the United States," didn't you?
As for paying off debt, they were heavily in debt to the French at the time and needed to pay that down as quickly as they could--France bankrupted itself supporting us, you know.
Providing healthcare isn’t the role of government. Show me where it says that!
Do you think because someone leans right they haven't felt that? That they don't know what its like to have a friend tell them in tears that their job is being shipped overseas or to have it happen to them personally?
I agree with you it is a horrible thing that needs to be reversed!
If we're going to use words, let's use them correctly. What we have now is not socialism, it's an:
Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by HappyBunny
It does? Got a few examples?
Russia was basically socialist until Lenin came along.
Socialism is the nationalization of the private sector and the suppression of the free market.
The only step missing to become full fledged communism is when government owns and controls the means of production. Why is it such a stretch to you and others to think that the same crony capitalist idiots we have in power now wouldn’t abuse their power even further if we allowed them to get stronger and have more control?? The constitution is the only thing that limits their power and we’re allowing them to bypass it (or ignore it completely).
Providing healthcare isn’t the role of government. Show me where it says that!
So what? It’s in the 5th amendment.
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
You did see the phrase in there "provide for the general Welfare of the United States," didn't you?
That’s your war cry, huh? Do you really think that’s what the constitution was about? Cradle to grave welfare? No personal responsibility?
As for paying off debt, they were heavily in debt to the French at the time and needed to pay that down as quickly as they could--France bankrupted itself supporting us, you know.
And China is supporting your Obamacare……how EVOLVED we are becoming!
Originally posted by blackthorne
reply to post by wildtimes
the constitution says. "to promote the general welfare." i do believe that healthcare would fall under that!
as to seabag, russia was a monarchy before lenin. and the czars were autocrats. their economics were in the hands of a few rich people. that is why the people, even the military rose up against them.
so·cial·ism [soh-shuh-liz-uh m] Show IPA
noun
1.
a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.
....Socialism almost always devolves into communism. ....
Originally posted by blackthorne
reply to post by neo96
to promote the general welfare of ALL its citizens. where does your interpretation of that come from? i was just saying that a lot of what the government does falls under that clause.
why are we the only first world country that does not provide healthcare to all its citizens? we really can learn from other countries. not every thing we do is the absolute best.