posted on Nov, 8 2012 @ 12:16 PM
reply to post by lonewolf19792000
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
Same old song and dance:
"God cannot be good, because he punishes the evil people, and a loving God would not punish people when they do wrong, but rather let them get away
with being immoral".
Therefore God does not exist, because he has a sense of justice they do not like to hear about.
I didn't claim that there was not god just because there is justice.
I said, how can it be true that God IS LOVE itself as the bible claims in John, if God cannot even accept people as they are? If you can't accept
people, you don't love THEM, you only love who you WANT them to be... So it doesn't make sense to call yourself "love" itself....
reply to post by zonetripper2065
Originally posted by zonetripper2065
reply to post by ZeroReady
You said exactly what I was feeling. thanks. People need to get over it believe or don't and keep it to yourself.
Why do I "need" to keep it to myself? I can give my perspective of how such a God is not really loving, just like they can try to justify that it
I'm not "forcing" anyone to do anything...
reply to post by Klassified
Originally posted by Klassified
Here's the deal. God created all that exists. In that creation, he only created two ultimate places for humans to go after their death. Eternal life,
or Eternal damnation and separation from God.
So... you either live and do as God tells you, or you suffer the consequences. He created it, he owns it, and he runs it. Comply or die.
That's the Christian view in a nutshell, with all the niceties left out that make it more palatable.
"Comply or Die" , so it doesn't really matter that this God is making a false claim about himself because he runs everything? It's ok if that is
your perspective. I am just bringing the AWARENESS of the the claim of "God" believing "Love" itself is a lie...
reply to post by ImaFungi
Originally posted by ImaFungi
reply to post by arpgme
think of heaven or hell as being experiences for a human on earth.....
are there natural laws on earth for a human?
ones where if a human were to break often, their life may become miserable? physically,mentally, and spiritually weak?
are these things that damage the human physically, mentally, and spiritually known as sins?
is it said that if a human sins they will bring themselves to hell?
i get it..
edit on 8-11-2012 by ImaFungi because: (no reason given)
The only difference is that nature hasn't claimed to be "Love" itself. So nature didn't lie, it just do what it does...
reply to post by JDmOKI
Originally posted by JDmOKI
reply to post by arpgme
free-will. God doesn't force anyone to do anything
Since there is free-will and god doesn't "force" anyone to do anything, that would also include hell (that he doesn't "force" them there and
gives them free will).
reply to post by adjensen
Originally posted by adjensen
God doesn't throw you anywhere.
Hell was created for the demons, and is the only place in the non-material world where God is not present.
So, after a lifetime of not needing God, not loving God, not wanting to be in God's presence, you are granted exactly what you've insisted upon --
existence without God.
Where's the injustice in that?
edit on 8-11-2012 by adjensen because: (no reason given)
If hell is a place of burning in fire then it still isn't loving/accepting. Just because one chose to not be with the Christian God doesn't mean
that they want to burn in fire.