Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
Originally posted by Wonders
Originally posted by Scouser640
reply to post by subjectzero
We are both God - as is everyone else - what more common ground could you possibly wish for?
My signature says otherwise. Fact of the matter is, the difference between those that God loves and those whom God mocks, is a BIG difference. Many so
called Christians say the SAME thing you're trying to say right now.
The irony. "We are all sinners, except we're going to heaven because we know whose ass to kiss."
Seems a little like, "Christians are not better than us, except we deserve more respect because we know HOW to kiss ass."
News flash: There is no equality.
Never heard a christian say we are God. The Body of Christ yes, but not God. His physical extensions into this world, but we're just mirror images
that can do nothing on our own.
The only difference between a christian and everyone else is we are humble enough to admit we're screwed without the Savior and cannot save
ourselves. Never met someone who said "I am God" who is not now dead or dying or will die.
Well I'm not here to dispute your first paragraph, I was not saying in my previous post that Christians go around telling people that they are Gods,
I was talking about how Christians in effect say that what they believe has not nor ever will alter their sorry behaviors no matter how many people
tell them that Jesus came to save them from their sins, they take that to mean that Jesus will save them from the consequences of a sinful lifestyle,
a lifestyle in which they believe they have no recourse for the wrongs they commit just so long as they admit that they disobey Jesus' commands.
I agree with the first sentence in your second paragraph, to an extent. It's what comes after you realize that you need Jesus that change can take
place, why because that opens up the possibility to ask Jesus for wisdom and understanding, which according to the bible are more precious than
anything that can be destoyed by moths rust or stolen. A person that has wisdom and understanding ought to think differently than a fool, because
according to the bible, A whip for the horse, a halter for the donkey, and a rod for the backs of fools! -Proverbs 26:3
Who gets rods to their backs but slaves? And what did Jesus say about slaves? Anyone who sins is a slave to sin. So let's take a look at the
definition of a slave.
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1.somebody forced to work for another: somebody who is forced to work for somebody else for no payment and is regarded as the property of that
2.dominated person: somebody who is dominated by somebody or by something
3.somebody accepting another's rule: somebody who meekly accepts being ruled by somebody else
Now I know some people are going to jump up and down pointing out the fact that this definition applies to God having dominion over a person, in other
words, the created lives up to the expectations of the creator.
Now ponder this, this is what Jesus said to the hypocrites, who knew the law but added to it and only followed the ones they wanted to, the ones who
said, "I'll obey, I'll do it my way.": John 8:44 "You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire."
The people he was speaking to thought they were saved, they thought they were the ones who were right.
They may say, I don't feel the weight of sin, while the world groans under its dictatorship.
What we need to realize is that we are headed toward a New World Order, and these people do believe that what they are doing is right and the world
will give in to it, and they will accept it, meekly.
Now what is a believer to do? Go around implicitly telling others, "Oh no there's really no difference between us, we're just as 'screwed' up as
you are, but, if you feel really really bad about what you did and you think Jesus is a good guy who will take the fall for ya, then you're okay to
hang with us at church because frankly we love Jesus and all but we don't obey his commands either, we're sinners for life y'all. "
OR can anyone imagine anything else than living a life of some sort of unresolved grief and denial?
The interesting thing is, these NWO leaders share the exact same sentiment towards God as the OP.