Can't beat em, join em.

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No, of course I don't think Obama is subsidizing rims, and I don't blame him solely for the state of welfare abuse. But it goes beyond priorities. I've seen people that use a food stamp card go and leave in their new BMW or Mercedes and there is no reason someone that can afford things like that should be getting anything that the taxpayers pay for.

I'm not against welfare, it has its place, and I don't mind the contributions I make going to help people. But the OP having internet and getting some free stuff wouldn't be worse than what I've seen is all I'm saying. I just don't like all the scamming the system that goes on.

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You shared a vid...

Here's mine. It's about cheese. Macaroni and cheese.

No hard feelings?

Edit to add: It makes a great ringtone!

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Well, Rush is right about this. What about the quote from big Ron, quoting the guy from 200 years before.... none of this is new or original, but recognizing the reality of why we are where we are is important.

I could go and find a link to where I ranted about the ads in CA before and made the same points. Might take a minute...ATS

Unless everyone wakes up, we crash. And there is almost no chance of that I suppose.

And as for my spelling of mythical Satanic characters, I apologize, my spelling needs work. I misspelled polls the other day too. Sometimes I type too fast and the first and second letters both get capitalized. I congratulate you on your perfection.

Meanwhile even the bird brain agrees with me. Hey, you can't agree with me in a rant. What is wrong with you...

reply to post by MystikMushroom


Great vid.

Hard feelings, of course... Stalking you to the end of ATS.

Watch your back buddy...

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If the bird agrees, you KNOW it's right

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reply to post by MystikMushroom

Oh and the program goes way, way back. Even Bush Jr. in 2009 expanded the program -- one of your own fellow Republicans!

don't try to confuse them with the facts, Obama is a secret muslim marxist socialist Kenyan who wants to give poor and lazy people free stuff, case closed, no need to actually take a look at it, those hard core conservative blogs NEVER have an agenda, and only present accurate information.

It's the same as some of the policies people are up in arms over. Obama continued or extended BUSH policies, yet, it's Obama who gets the blame. Sure, he should have repealed them immediately, but that doesn't change the fact that all of these were republican started policies.

Isn't it amazing?

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Hello my friend, no need to stress.

A lot of scriptures mention that only one third of the world will succumb. In the United States election, only 1/3 of the population participated and received "the mark of the beast" in form of "i voted stickers."

Therefore You only think that you are outnumbered because of disinformation. It is quite from so. Just because 200,000,000 Americans aren't on ATS doesn't mean they don't exist. Once you stop paying attention to something long enough, it becomes invisible.

Thank You, and i hope i could help.

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Honestly, and many people will believe I am trolling, but the best way to beat the people who feel entitled to your paycheck is to quit working.

The system cannot continue without willing participants.

Originally posted by PurpleChiten

Originally posted by MystikMushroom
reply to post by kawika

 

Because you are using recycled Rush Limbaugh terms like "Santa Claus" (which you misspelled) I can theorize that you are:

1. a troll
2. lacking in any original thought
3. having fun and being sarcastic

You see, the poor and "uneducated Obama supporters" are not that unlike the "poor, midwest, sheep 'loving', backwards, ignorant, bigoted Republicans".

If you overlay the "red states" with the biggest takers of food stamps you'll soon see a pattern.

I have no further desire to comment on this discussion.

Boy, the trolls and uneducated masses are out in force tonight with their pitchforks, aren't they?

I do have to say that the vast majority of the people who "play the system" in this area are also very, VERY die-hard republicans. They sit at home all day, drawing their government checks that they lied to get and rant and rave about "those dirty democrats" and tell everybody around them they should vote republican

The biggest "republicans" in this area are the exact same people who are popping pills, drawing welfare or faking their way into a disability check.

Funny thread.. guess no one here knows the definition for "facetious"

Anyway, Here its the Dem types who are pill poppin, gang bangin', welfare fakin'... few counties over its the republican pill poppin', motorcycle club ridin', welfare fakin'.... Pretty much, they dont even know what their chosen political party is about... just use it as a platform to whine, gripe, get free junk, and have an excuse for their non-contrbutin', leechin', nonsense.
Wait till I rope you into a convo about our education issue here. We were transferred here a few yrs ago and my kids from the "dumb country school" were almost 2 years ahead of the academically lacking warm butt in the chair for fed bucks school. Ever heard of "participation points"??? If not, oh boy, wait till I tell you!

Originally posted by Advantage

Wait till I rope you into a convo about our education issue here.

We were transferred here a few yrs ago and my kids from the "dumb country school" were almost 2 years ahead of the academically lacking warm butt in the chair for fed bucks school. Ever heard of "participation points"??? If not, oh boy, wait till I tell you!

Yeah, I've actually had kids request them.... needless to say, the answer was NO. You don't score well on the ACT/SAT by "participating" and getting all the answers wrong. It doesn't work that way. If they don't participate, their parents come in for a conference. If that doesn't work, they can do in detention what they didn't do in class and their parents can stay "unstoned" long enough to come pick them up after school when the detention is over. (the non-stoner parents take care of it after the conference and it doesn't come to detention). After they see that you're going to carry through, they decide to take the path of least resistance.

Their work, effort and attention is required either during class or after school and they don't wanna stay after school. ...after they give in and put forth a little effort, they decide I'm their favorite teacher because I'll bend over backwards and turn cartwheels if neccessary to help them undertand it. But they have to be willing to understand it first.

During the first month or so of school, I have kids staying after because they didn't want to work. After that, I have kids staying after because they DO want to work

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Honestly, and many people will believe I am trolling, but the best way to beat the people who feel entitled to your paycheck is to quit working.

The system cannot continue without willing participants.

Seems like that is what Big Ron said....

Did Ronald Reagan change history? Well, we all change history in our own way. The more interesting question: What changed Ronald Reagan?

What changed the labor advocate — with enough street cred to get elected president of Hollywood’s actors union — into a labor basher extraordinaire? What turned Reagan the standard-issue New Deal Democrat into the 20th century’s premiere pusher for almost entirely unrestrained “free enterprise”?

The answer? According to Reagan himself, the federal income tax — specifically the over 90 percent top rate on top-bracket income that went into effect during World War II — changed Ronald Reagan. That tax levy absolutely incensed the amiable actor.

At his Hollywood height, actor Ronnie Reagan was making $400,000 per picture. With the top federal tax rate over 90 percent, Reagan used to tell his White House chief of staff Donald Regan, he always chose to “loaf” around rather than make more than two pictures a year.

Source

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Chiten, thats bad enough... but this is a little worse. My oldest was struggling with 2nd yr algebra. I would check her work and it was all wrong. Id explain it to her.. magically she would do the work all right. Hmm... so I made an appointment with the math teacher. I was concerned there was an issue since I could teach her at home, but she wasnt learning the correct formulas and operation at school. She is a talker and very social, so I didnt walk into it thinking the teacher was at fault necessarily. Hemming and hawing.. finally we discovered that this teacher did NOT check daily work or assignments. If the kids turned in a paper they got the points as if they made 100% on the paper. Yet another **kerthunk** moment in my time since Ive lived in this city. So I said, let me get this straight.. the kid gets 100% as far as youre concerned with daily part of the score, can flunk tests consistently, yet still pass your class KNOWING NOTHING. That was never answered, but she did tell me she had been an educator for 22 years.. so I obviously knew less than her concerning educating children.
I dont think its really a mystery anymore why we have a HUGE number of illiterate teens graduating and **dun-dun-dn* UNEMPLOYABLE in our county. Somehow they also call this a AAA rated school and have little yard signs/plaques concerning their wonderful state and federal awards..
I was already homeschooling my middle child due to her being home-bound with the aftermath of a liver transplant, so I home schooled the oldest.. she is now in Mo taking advanced classes in college there before going to a local university for her degree. WHEW.. glad we were fortunate enough to have the means to actually do this. Home schooling is EXPENSIVE.. I can only imagine what parents to around here ( ones that care, anyway) to get their kids up to par for work or degree.

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I do have to say I've been guilty of that one. Not giving credit for wrong answers, but giving them their "checkmark" for "doing" the homework. It's not a score, just a way of keeping track if they "did" the assignment, not if they did it correctly. However, I always post the correct answers and ask the kids if there were any that they got wrong and would like to discuss, perfectly willing to do every single one if we need to. We usually discuss about 1/3 of them depending on whether the kids are honest and ask about the ones they don't understand. I never just "take the papers and give them credit" though.

However, if she was giving credit as far as scores based on just having a paper turned in, that's not too good


ETA: I always stress that "practice does NOT make perfect, only PERFECT practice makes perfect"

The homework assignment is to practice the skill they learned and ensure they know the processes of doing the problems. I've even made assignments, given them the answers, then have them do the assignment to see if they can come up with the correct answer I gave them. Of course on those, I check their work to see if they went through the processes corrrectly.

I sometimes have them write out an explanation of how I got the answer I got. ....every now and then, just for "fun", I give them the wrong answer on the explanation assignments as a "check" to see if they figure out it's the wrong answer or not. They have to tell me whether the answer is correct or not, THEN tell me what mistake led to that wrong anwer. That ensures they understand the process and can explain it. It really helps to cement their understanding as well as address common errors that are made to avoid in the future. When we do those during class, I introduce it as "error checking". They tend to really like those because they can "argue" a little and treat it like solving a puzzle

Due to being in a public school, I do limit the homework to no more than 1/2 hour an evening, usually a 15-20 minute assignment is sufficient with all the other activities that kids are involved in these days (other than projects they know about well ahead of time)

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I am going away for the weekend.

You kids play nice.

PurpleChiten is in charge...

Originally posted by kawika
It is the Santa Clause Gov. That is the big attraction right? Free ice cream if you vote for me.

Am I misunderstanding?

Yes, your OP and subsequent posts are nothing but hyperbole.

Originally posted by scorpiosin

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
reply to post by kawika

 

You can afford internet access?

You don't need any free stuff.

~Tenth

26" chrome wheels cost more than internet access yet I see those cars outside our welfare offices all too often.

Here in WA, it's the Ukranian's that are squeezing every drop out of welfare. My wife works at a health clinic and she has a patient that drives to the clinic in a 2009 Benz...then pulls out his Medicare card to pay his bills.

Lima-1, out.

Op didn't listen to the official spokesperson?

EVERYBODY IN CLEVELAND LOW MINORITY GOT OBAMA PHONE

KEEP OBAMA IN PRESIDENT YOU KNOW?!

I think only low minority in Cleveland get obamaphone

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Amen bro! We've all been paying into the system forever so why don't we all reap the benefits. I'm jobless, phoneless, pennyless, but the only thing I take is my food stamps. I live in Alabama but when I went to California a few months back and lived as a gypsey I got food stamps the same day as my appointment. I didn't even have to have ID. I came back to Bama and still enjoying my $200 a month in munchies. Take advantage of it while you can. The country is sinking deeper and deeper. Get your share before its all gone!