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Very true. I am part Algonquin. It may be time to "rediscover my heritage".
Originally posted by cavalryscout
reply to post by kawika
If you're a straight white male under 40 you're screwed they won't give you a damn thing. (not even that delicious guvernment cheese everybody loves.)
If you're a straight white male under 40 you're screwed they won't give you a damn thing. (not even that delicious guvernment cheese everybody loves.)
Perhaps what he had in mind was what Prof. Alexander Frazer Tytler has written, that a democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover they can vote themselves largesse out of the public treasury. From that moment on the majority, he said, always vote for the candidate promising the most benefits from the treasury with the result that democracy always collpases over a loose fiscal policy, always to be followed by a dictatorship. Unfortunately, we can't argue with the professor because when he wrote that we were still colonials of Great Britain and he was explaining what had destroyed the Athenian Republic more than 2000 years before.
Originally posted by tothetenthpower
reply to post by MystikMushroom
Although I agree with your premise Duchess, that education starts at home and that parents have a responsibility to that..
However, the government, if they are going to provide educational services, have a mandate and a duty to do it correctly, not all half assed like they've done for the past 30 years.
The school system is still run like it was after WWII.
I'm amazed actually at how piss poor it is in the US. That's not the students fault, nor the parents, that's a direct failure of the department of education and your elected officials. When was the last time there was meaninfull education reform?
No Child Left Behind? Hardly a reform at all.
Why are chartered schools performing SO Much better and are able to close the scoring gap between poor and rich students? They are taking the same ammount of money that public schools do, but they are doing it correctly.
I watched a documentary the other night called Waiting For Superman. It was VERY eye opening, I suggest for anybody who wants some serious education ( pardon the pun) on how the system works to watch it.
~Tenth
Originally posted by tothetenthpower
reply to post by DarthMuerte
Teacher Unions are the biggest obstacle to a proper education system.
Tenure is also something that is really really absurd to give anybody before they've been there for at least 5 to 10 years. Even then, after a STRENUOUS review of your performance should you receive it.
~Tenth
Originally posted by kawika
reply to post by PurpleChiten
Well, I think the real issue is that if the kids are conditioned to think they should get stuff without working for it, then they don't care about school. I tutor 4th graders in math, and man are those brats unfocused...
We used to make kids mow the whole lawn for 50 cents. That sort of character building is what is missing from todays United States.
Now either the kids don't believe they can do it on their own, or they believe they are entitled to things without working. Whichever it is, we are in trouble.
Originally posted by kawika
reply to post by PurpleChiten
My Son is in his 2nd year of community college.
No student loans yet.
He works at a Habitat for Humanity store and started offering delivery for 20 bucks because the company does not offer it and he has a little pickup truck. Created his own little business, found a need and filled it. Wow...
Originally posted by MystikMushroom
reply to post by kawika
Because you are using recycled Rush Limbaugh terms like "Santa Claus" (which you misspelled) I can theorize that you are:
1. a troll
2. lacking in any original thought
3. having fun and being sarcastic
You see, the poor and "uneducated Obama supporters" are not that unlike the "poor, midwest, sheep 'loving', backwards, ignorant, bigoted Republicans".
If you overlay the "red states" with the biggest takers of food stamps you'll soon see a pattern.
I have no further desire to comment on this discussion.
Boy, the trolls and uneducated masses are out in force tonight with their pitchforks, aren't they?