Originally posted by carl6405
Obama supporters hate the filthy rich, the corporations in America, capitalism..... guess what... you mean the same group that supply the jobs in this
I think the left has a very sinister agenda and that is the destruction of America as it has been known for, for over 200 years. America was known as
the land of the free, the place for people to start a new life, a place to start a business, for entrepreneurs, to be someone that gives back to
society. Now... we are on the fast track to socialism.
This entire thread, the very outspoken hate etc. is embarrassing to read. I feel like surrounded by robots repeating the very same thing over and
The idea that "the left" wants the destruction of America is simply...retarded. Making it sound as if "the left" would be a danger to freedom,
entrepreneurs etc. is nothing but the purest fear-mongering.
A land is "free" NOT because it adheres to principles..but when it MANAGES it that people of all kinds can indeed live free, without worries about the
most essential things in life.
Unemployed or simply "the poor" who worry about food, rent etc. are NOT FREE.
If you can only make bare ends paying off your credit cards each month, you are NOT FREE.
If you cannot afford to get sick since otherwise bankruptcy would destroy your family, you are NOT FREE.
The "socialism" or worse "marxism" /capitalism comparison is already so old...but obviously still majorly popular to conveniently spout out with MOST
Here a clarification: True communist or marxist countries, say former communist countries or still existing communist countries like China *ARE NOT
FREE*. We do not even have to debate this. Yes, there were (probably still are) socialist countries where people ARE NOT FREE. No reason to deny this
But there are plenty of examples where I'd say the people are much more free than people in the US, and this includes countries which (taken your
standard) would be "socialist".
Those are countries where people get free healthcare. Countries where people do NOT have to worry about unemployment or what happens SHOULD they get
unemployed. Countries where it is unthinkable that someone even lives and works while NOT having health insurance.
I am sorry, when I'd have to define what "FREE" means, I would choose those countries where people live happily without all those problems - while
many people in the States *literally* have to wonder how they can survive over the next week. So..tell me..who is really free?
The goal is not the destruction of America, but trying to find solutions for the problems it has!
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