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My Plea to the Republican Party!

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posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 12:14 PM
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Ok my fellow Republicans, it’s time to sit down with a strong cup of coffee and have a chat.

I’m sure most of you know of those soccer games in which there is no score taken so the kids can feel good about themselves. Fast forward a few years later and it’s these kids that are crying on the sidelines after they lost their first real match.

That is how you are acting! I wake up this morn and turn on Fox to see the reactions…..and it’s a sobbing boo hoo fest. I l click on ATS to read up on things and it’s the same thing.

Republicans are telling me how the country has gone to crap and we are not exceptional people all because Romney was whooped in the election. One thread is asking why there are not any riots and another claiming it’s the death of capitalism, opening the door wide-open for the socialist Red’s to take over America.

The best thing we can do is pick ourselves up off the floor, dust off the defeat and work towards the next election.

But this is where it gets real important…….

If you continue to go down the same path, if you continue to alienate people with religious mantra, party rhetoric and outright propaganda, you will lose again.
If you continue to push an agenda that favors the few at the expense of the many, you will lose again.
If you continue to refuse to compromise and be open to ideologies other than your own, you will lose again.
If you don’t learn to check your religion at the door, you will lose again.
If you don’t take the time to learn the value of a diverse nation, you will lose again.

The overall point is that if you learn nothing from this defeat and continue to travel the same road that has been traveled since 2000, our party will become a relic of olden times.

Please don’t go down this road! I beg of you! Let’s work together to champion the conservative ideals that we are supposed to stand for, not the emotional zealots and bigots we have easily become.

I think it is safe to say that this is our last chance to open our party to different ideas and ideologies. Otherwise…stick a fork in it…it’s done!

How we move forward from here is up to you. There is a quote from the Lord of the Rings that fits this situation very well and sums up my thoughts on the future of the GOP.



Please do not go where I cannot follow

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posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 12:19 PM
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Time to start many things.

Re-energize the Tea Party
Introduce Libertarian people into mainstream NOW
Start an anti-Lobby Lobby

I have my work cut out for me.




posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 12:21 PM
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Yes Beezer! We need ideas and action to invigorate the party. But we also need open-mindedness, compromise and compassion.

Nice avatar by the way.



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 12:25 PM
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Originally posted by sheepslayer247
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Yes Beezer! We need ideas and action to invigorate the party. But we also need open-mindedness, compromise and compassion.

Nice avatar by the way.



Thanks

The problem is, I gave up the GOP back in '06. Been an independent. Albiet, a CONSERVATIVE independent.

A different tactic is definitely needed though.


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posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 12:25 PM
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I've been "unfriended" a few times on FB already this morning for poking fun at the boo-hooers.
And I don't even support Obama, I just don't see how anyone thought Romney would be any different, and I don't see why they are so upset. There are people that literally think our country died today. I've seen it on FB, I've heard it a work, etc. The guy I went to lunch with today thinks we are doomed.


The big thing is the pro-life crowd. They are livid! But why? Romney was never going to stay pro-life. He wasn't going to enact any such legislation, he has said so plenty of times.

The economy? Well, it has taken a dip today, just like it could have taken a bounce today, but it is only temporary. By Monday the stock market will be doing its typical illogical thing instead of its current reactionary illogical thing.


Even if you believe all the doom and gloom, and even if Obama can now proudly display his horns, so what? At least we get to the business at hand instead of delaying it further. We were doomed before last night, but at least this way, its possible we might get to see this thing through and see the government for what it really is, instead of being falsely misled for another 4-8 years.

My candidate lost too.
Didn't even get 1% of the votes. Should I be mad? Tell everyone they are idiots for falling for the two-party stranglehold? Well, that is all true, but I didn't say it.



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 12:25 PM
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Finally a good thread about why was there a loss and how to improve.

Instead of the bickering, anti-winner, threads.

And i agree with all the bullet points on the OP.



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 12:27 PM
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correct me if im wrong,, but are you saying you hate freedom,white people and christians,,
and that your fists are made of iron and your a socialistic communist that loves abortions?



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 12:28 PM
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Originally posted by sheepslayer247
Ok my fellow Republicans, it’s time to sit down with a strong cup of coffee and have a chat.


Yah, so you didn't bring up your party affiliation for when your boss handed out Romney pamphlets in your paycheck...........LOL!

At least you are honest here, and recognized that was wrong, so there might be redemption in that alone, as no employer has a right in how to tell people how to vote.

Why don't you start there?

You kind of remind me of this fellow waiting to find out an outcome:

en.wikipedia.org...


All four Canonical Gospels state that during Jesus' Last Supper with his disciples, he predicted that Peter would deny knowledge of him, stating that Peter would disown him before the rooster crowed the next morning. Following the arrest of Jesus Peter denied knowing him three times, but after the third denial, heard the rooster crow and recalled the prediction as Jesus turned to look at him. Peter then began to cry bitterly.[3] This final incident is known as the Repentance of Peter.[4] Both the denial and repentance incidents have been the subject of major works of art for centuries.


The truth only comes out after you test the waters, huh?



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 12:29 PM
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I am glad cooler heads are prevailing.

Very insightful and comprehensive post.

I would like to add my favorite quote from Rocky!

Its now how hard you hit, its how hard you get can get hit and keep moving forward.


At the end of the day, you are all American citizens.



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 12:32 PM
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Thank you, that really needed to be said. So many people have been left feeling like the former governor of Florida Charlie Crist, who is considered to be a republican turncoat. His feeling is that he didn't leave the republican party, the republican party left him.... thanks again.


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posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 12:34 PM
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I left the Republicans after I voted for George W in 04. I was rather disappointed and disillusioned. When they jumped off the cliff into the dreamland of the moral majority and the extreme social conservatives, they went to a place I could not follow as well.

If they just focus on what they are good at....fiscal responsibility and finance...stay out of people's lives and bedrooms.

I am now a card carrying Libertarian and I also have plans for a lot of work in the future. I believe in the foundation of the party and everything it stands for. I do, however, believe the Republicans can learn from us.

Leave a woman's body alone. Her choices are between her, her doctor, her family and whatever God she prays to. The Government doesn't belong in that equation.

Let people love and marry whoever they wish. As far as I am concerned, you can marry your mailbox. It is not going to effect my life one bit.

If people want to be a prostitute, make and sell moonshine, grow weed....whatever...let them. It's freedom and personal responsibility...consider it advanced Darwinism...if they ruin their lives and die...oh well.

The extreme social views and theocratic positions frightened the crap out of people....they saw far too much prying and manipulating...these are not places for the Gov. Just remember these things...

1) You cannot legislate morality...people will do whatever they want...legal or not. No need to fill prisons that way.

2) You cannot mandate "good will toward man". people are going to say and act the way they feel inside...you cannot legislate those feeling away.
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posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 12:35 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by sheepslayer247
 


Time to start many things.

Re-energize the Tea Party


Really? It seems to me that the tea party is directly responsible for the mess the Republican party is currently facing. If anything, I would nuter the tea party, not energize it.


Introduce Libertarian people into mainstream NOW


Libertarians have some good ideas, but they are too extreme for mainstream America. That will not work out well.


Start an anti-Lobby Lobby


This I certainly agree with. This should be a bipartisan issue. Any congressman opposed to this is a congressman that is being bought and should be ousted.

sheepslayer247, great post. I totally agree with you. I also think there is much work to do in the Democratic party as well. Congress getting back to work ASAP and quickly compromising on important issues would be a nice start.



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 12:36 PM
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My employers know that I am a Republican, they also know that I was going to vote for Johnson or Ron Paul. So I do not think I fall into the fables of Peter.

Nice analogy though.



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 12:37 PM
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IMO, the nation has shown that it is irretrievably divided. It is time to split the current US into at least two different nations. One with the statist paradigm and one with the individualist, freedom loving paradigm. The two philosophies are antithetical to each other. You cannot be a freedom loving statist and neither can you be a nanny state loving individualist. The two paradigms cannot coexist.



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 12:39 PM
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Originally posted by Osiris1953
reply to post by sheepslayer247
 


Thank you, that really needed to be said. So many people have been left feeling like the former governor of Florida Charlie Crist, who is considered to be a republican turncoat. His feeling is that he didn't leave the republican party, the republican party left him.... thanks again.


No Crist defintely left the party. He entirely flipped his stances from the platform he ran on as Governor. He was actually a pretty popular governor, and a shoe in for the Congressional seat, but he alienated his entire base and didn't even win his primary.



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 12:41 PM
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I liked how in the Romney concession speech, he claimed something to the effect that everyone needed to stop the partisan fighting and bickering and come together.

Wasn't the entire campaign based on the opposite?

Well, I'd like to see both sides of the isle come together, I'd like people to see in grey rather than black or white, but...I don't think it's realistic, especially now.

I admit i'm young at 26, but in my life i've seen politics change drastically. Partially due to MSM and the attempt to hardwire us vs. them politics into us by relentlessly shoving it down our throats inside the house and outside. There isn't any escaping it.

Politics bring out the best and worst in people, much like religion.

I'm glad this is all over. Wait....no, it's not. Now we have race to the white house 2016 coverage 24/7 for the next four years. And more bickering. And more us vs. them. And more anger. And more hate.

Human nature I suppose.



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 12:42 PM
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Originally posted by sheepslayer247
Ok my fellow Republicans, it’s time to sit down with a strong cup of coffee and have a chat.

I’m sure most of you know of those soccer games in which there is no score taken so the kids can feel good about themselves. Fast forward a few years later and it’s these kids that are crying on the sidelines after they lost their first real match.

That is how you are acting! I wake up this morn and turn on Fox to see the reactions…..and it’s a sobbing boo hoo fest. I l click on ATS to read up on things and it’s the same thing.

Republicans are telling me how the country has gone to crap and we are not exceptional people all because Romney was whooped in the election. One thread is asking why there are not any riots and another claiming it’s the death of capitalism, opening the door wide-open for the socialist Red’s to take over America.

The best thing we can do is pick ourselves up off the floor, dust off the defeat and work towards the next election.

But this is where it gets real important…….

If you continue to go down the same path, if you continue to alienate people with religious mantra, party rhetoric and outright propaganda, you will lose again.
If you continue to push an agenda that favors the few at the expense of the many, you will lose again.
If you continue to refuse to compromise and be open to ideologies other than your own, you will lose again.
If you don’t learn to check your religion at the door, you will lose again.
If you don’t take the time to learn the value of a diverse nation, you will lose again.

The overall point is that if you learn nothing from this defeat and continue to travel the same road that has been traveled since 2000, our party will become a relic of olden times.

Please don’t go down this road! I beg of you! Let’s work together to champion the conservative ideals that we are supposed to stand for, not the emotional zealots and bigots we have easily become.

I think it is safe to say that this is our last chance to open our party to different ideas and ideologies. Otherwise…stick a fork in it…it’s done!

How we move forward from here is up to you. There is a quote from the Lord of the Rings that fits this situation very well and sums up my thoughts on the future of the GOP.



Please do not go where I cannot follow

edit on 7-11-2012 by sheepslayer247 because: (no reason given)


So, basically you are asking Republicans to not be true traditional Republicans anymore. Biblical values, pro-life, sanctity of marriage are stalwart Republican platform. Asking Republicans to put these issues aside is asking them not not be true to themselves. If you give yourself the label Republican, then you should stand on the platform that it puts forth- win or lose. To Thine own Self be true! Compromising on basic principles is weak. If people do not hold those values then they will affiliate with a party that holds their values.

What you allow, you encourage.



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 12:42 PM
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Originally posted by DarthMuerte
IMO, the nation has shown that it is irretrievably divided. It is time to split the current US into at least two different nations. One with the statist paradigm and one with the individualist, freedom loving paradigm. The two philosophies are antithetical to each other. You cannot be a freedom loving statist and neither can you be a nanny state loving individualist. The two paradigms cannot coexist.


Can you clarify? You are in support of a separatist movement?

What you are proposing would effectively destroy the United States and I could see how separating into Individual nations would run into perpetual conflict like the Greek city states of old.

Sounds like a "I give-up" kind of mentality. Life doesnt always have the easy roads



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 12:44 PM
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I have my work cut out for me.



You are not alone Bunny in Chief. WE have a lot of work to do.
You just need to get the Mrs. to get that chicken out of the oven so we can get some cookies up in here.


How long does it take to bake a chicken anyways?



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 12:44 PM
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Originally posted by sheepslayer247
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My employers know that I am a Republican, they also know that I was going to vote for Johnson or Ron Paul. So I do not think I fall into the fables of Peter.

Nice analogy though.


Then why did you worry about the pamphlet?

Also, if you were going to vote for Johnson or Paul, you're not a Republican.





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