Been watching this for quite some time now.

Something that strikes me odd about all these protests around the world is this....

Do any of those people own guns? They go out to protest to make a change and get arrested, shot at,
beaten up by police and gassed...yet NO ONE ever fires a shot at the police.

Maybe THAT is the flashpoint. When a protestor finally starts shooting back at the riot police, all heck will
break loose....It's gonna happen at some point.

And THEN what?

Oxi

those police look seriously outnumbered if this crowd got serious they couldn't stop them

Originally posted by Oxidadoblancoquepasa
Been watching this for quite some time now.

Something that strikes me odd about all these protests around the world is this....

Do any of those people own guns? They go out to protest to make a change and get arrested, shot at,
beaten up by police and gassed...yet NO ONE ever fires a shot at the police.

Maybe THAT is the flashpoint. When a protestor finally starts shooting back at the riot police, all heck will
break loose....It's gonna happen at some point.

And THEN what?

Oxi

It's important to remember that most countries are not like the USA when it comes to gun ownership. In most other nations, guns are pretty much restricted to rural areas, used in farming and and as a tool of necessity. America is pretty much the only country in the world that has an industry built around recreational gun use and public ownership of firearms.

There are a lot of nations where guns are in circulation and not controlled, but these are generally as a result of conflict and internal revolution. No other nation that I'm aware of has an open industry relating to gun use.

But you have to consider personal responsibility and risk too. At what point does it become reasonable to fight back with bullets? Some would say that the US is actually closer to that in recent years, what with the police actively abusing their authority and shooting people in the street.

When you think about some of the police officers murdering people in the US in the street, with witnesses, it is actually pretty surprising that there hasn't been an armed response from the public. I think if that were to happen at a protest like this in Athens, with innocent people actually fired upon, you would have an entirely different escalation of the violence.

That's the point at which all bets are off. When the police do something so unjust that the only response is something equal, then you get a revolution unfolding on the streets. It becomes a real war with actions met by equal or greater action.

The moment the police there actually kill someone on the street I would say that things are about to really kick off. Right now they seem to be enjoying a familiar dance, with just lots of things being thrown. It's like a national sport these days.

If those protesters actually become organized, and have a mission, a goal (for instance a plan to take parliament) then we could see it all happen and be over within a couple of days. But right now, they just seem to be venting their anger without any specific goals.

It is surreal to me that we can actually watch this unfolding this way. I feel like crying. I just heard a gunshot or something (got it open on another tab while I type this response), and they just threw stuff in the crowd to make smoke, what is that? It made them run.

Crap! More gunshots now? Anyway thanks for posting.

Originally posted by monkofmimir
those police look seriously outnumbered if this crowd got serious they couldn't stop them

Exactly, that's why I think this is just venting of anger against the government. If they actually created a plan and had an ambition, we would probably see a revolution, and it would probably be over and done with in a couple of days.

Those police are no match for a crowd of a few thousand who want to storm that building. They could actually do it pretty easily if they actually had enough people to sit down around a table and create a plan of action. But they haven't done that, they're just all gathering to scream and throw things.

Either way, it's likely that there will be a revolution there eventually. They'll either have a plan and do it with intent, or the Police will do something so unjust that the people have to respond with violence and they'll take that opportunity to take back their government too.

That's what I think at least. I've watched a lot of protests, riots and revolutions over the years, and it seems that there are patterns and predictable outcomes when it comes to the masses and their responses.

Originally posted by Ellie Sagan
It is surreal to me that we can actually watch this unfolding this way. I feel like crying. I just heard a gunshot or something (got it open on another tab while I type this response), and they just threw stuff in the crowd to make smoke, what is that? It made them run.

Crap! More gunshots now? Anyway thanks for posting.

It's not gunshots. If it were, there would be massive violence there right now and the police would be destroyed within an hour.

They're just throwing flash-bang grenades and gas, and the protesters are throwing rubble and fireworks back at them.

If the police actually start shooting people, with that kind of crowd, they would probably be swarmed and killed within no time at all.

What happens,when austerity measures force the cops to work with no pay,reduced pay,or lose their jobs?.

Then it's gonna get ugly.

TPTB probably won't allow that to happen though.

Police forces are just a fence,to separate livestock from the farmers abode.

Wish they had this cam on night vision with a mild filter.

Could see more.

I just hope when the whole thing finally does kick of we don't see those neonazi golden dawn taking charge

There is something a little more substantial burning now.


I Wonder what it is?.

Something is on fire now. Looks kinda big to me.

Oops, myhappydog beat me too it!

This is incredible, good for the Greek Citizens.

Its a shame that no one in the UK has the minerals to do this....

Originally posted by MyHappyDogShiner
There is something a little more substantial burning now.


I Wonder what it is?.

Car?