posted on Sep, 28 2015 @ 11:41 PM
originally posted by: zazzafrazz
Northwest Orient Airlines Flight 2501 is still searched for today, funded by Clive Cussler (the Dirk Pitt author who I secretly read and love)
They have 2 'mass graves' with headstones where they put wished up human remains. I'm not sure why they weren't identified individually and just all
buried together, unless the remain was so minute due to intense burning.
If anyone has more info on why these were all just put in these joint graves Id appreciate any links
No dna testing in 1950 so I doubt there was any way to identify people who by description, were found in chunks. I know that is gruesome but it makes
me wonder if the plane went down due to an explosion rather than weather. I suppose a mass grave made sense at the time but
in this blog post
states that investigative researcher
Valerie van Heest claims the mass burial happened without the knowledge of the victims' families. I wonder who actually made that decision or where
she got that info from.
Also found this little nugget
, supposedly from a book by Antony C. Sutton titled Wall Street and
the Rise of Hitler:
Northwest Orient Flight 2501 vanished from radar screens while flying over Lake Michigan on the night of 23 June 1950. Among the 58 people on
board, who were headed from New York to Seattle, was William H. Freng, a vice president of the International Telephone and Telegraph Corporation. Was
the plane brought down to kill Freng? ITT had much to hide: It maintained close connections with Nazi subsidiaries before, during and after World War
II. In his 1976 book Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler, Antony C. Sutton revealed that ITT, through its subsidiary C. Lorenz AG, owned 25 percent of
Focke-Wulf, the German aircraft manufacturer that built Luftwaffe fighter aircraft during World War II. ITT subsidiaries made cash payments directly
to Heinrich Himmler, leader of the SS, and they aided Nazis in their relocation to South America after the war. At the time of the disappearence of
Flight 2501 (1950), the plane's loss was the deadliest accident in commercial airline history. Divers and sonar operators dragging Lake Michigan found
debris, but they never found the plane itself. Failure to find the plane prevented further investigation.
Sort of a big claim there, so it's added just for discussion. Tells a possible reason for calling off investigation but not who would decide on a
secret mass grave.
I also have always wondered throughout my life if the Great Lakes Naval Station had anything to do with these stories. As a kid I remember HUGE ships
rolling by on the horizon enroute to and from the base. Some were auto industry / iron ore ships and enormous barges and some were naval ships. They
seemed to be reduced sometime in the eighties with the dying off of industry here and probably military budget cuts. Also, Kenosha, Wi no longer was a
harbor stop as they re-worked their lakefront into tourist material rather than industrial, when American Motors dried up. As an adult I have to
remind myself of the base because I don't really see the ships much anymore. If there are any naval officers out there who were/are stationed at Great
Lakes in North Chicago can add any stories or info, please do
Interesting reading, thanks to all who've added to this thread!
edit on 9/29/2015 by shockedonlooker because: more info added