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WOW! Never have I seen such ignorance of basic economics. What do you think happens to that money while it is in the pension fund? Are little leprechauns dancing around waving wands to make the fund grow? This is a perfect argument for testing of potential voters before allowing them into the polling booth.
Originally posted by lewman
reply to post by navy_vet_stg3
you dont need shares to set up a pension fund, what on earth have they been feeding you. You pay money in and you get money out at the end. I dont ask for some banker to take risks with my money, infact I would have been alot better off if those bankers never touched my money in the first place.
The stock market is just a way to widen the divide in prosperity between nations.
This election was made about FREE birth control.....That I object to.....a whole election over someone else paying for your screwing is insanity.
Originally posted by KeliOnyx
reply to post by xedocodex
All Doom and Gloom . Never mind the fact that the market will perk right up once the parasites and vultures get over their bad mood. I swear just something for sore losers to cry about.
So I guess you didn't hear the MSM pounding it to people about the war on women?
Bottom line, Romney knows how to create jobs and make a profit, while balancing a budget.
Has Obama done any of this ever in his life? NO!
So it was time to try something different because his crap isn't working.
If he worked for a company he would have been fired a long time ago.
In terms of the government, profit would mean spending less than we take in and paying off debt.
I don't want to argue with someone who supports big government and debt...you chose your leader....good luck.
This America isn't worth fighting for, time to clear my head.
Originally posted by navy_vet_stg3
reply to post by timetothink
I'm all for personal responsibility. I believe that putting on a rubber, or a woman taking birth control is a form of taking responsibility. I'd MUCH rather pay for that, than see the kid aborted, or placed into foster care. Wouldn't you?
Maybe I am "doing the same thing the left did". See, that doesn't bother me. I don't contact the GOP or the DNC to tell me how to think. As for why I voted for Romney, I did so because I think Obama is a dirt bag NWO shill. Not that Romney wouldn't be, but I think Obama owes someone something very big. I know nothing about the man, and that really bothers me.
Special legislation? I don't think they want anything "special". Just "equal". Why can't 2 adults marry...regardless of who they're bangin'? I agree though, I don't want to see churches forced to do so, if they don't feel it fits their personal religious beliefs.
Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by lewman
Well you can never believe what politirats tells you in order to win elections.
The future of US is not going to be any better and for the Fiscal Cliff, if you have keep up with the real economic news you will not be so happy.
Automatic Budget Cuts Could Cause 1 Million Layoffs
I don't know about you, but increasing unemployment only decrease tax revenue and add to the economic problem so don't expect any wages increases any time soon.
BTW Wall Street will get their money from the fed regardless and do no expect the super rich to be driving Hondas anytime soon or giving away their summer homes either They will just pack their companies and take them oversea as usual as is not regulations for outsourcing in the US.
The healtcare is nothing but a scam and that will be showing soon enough when your premiums are so high that you can not even afford to see a doctor but still forced to pay for the feesas it was nowhere in the healthcare reform that regulate out of pocket expenses.
Sadly the land of oblivion is just a peaceful dream land.
For tax years 2010 through 2013, the maximum credit is 35 percent for small business employers and 25 percent for small tax-exempt employers such as charities. An enhanced version of the credit will be effective beginning Jan. 1, 2014. Additional information about the enhanced version will be added to IRS.gov as it becomes available. In general, on Jan. 1, 2014, the rate will increase to 50 percent and 35 percent, respectively.
Here’s what this means for you. If you pay $50,000 a year toward workers’ health care premiums – and if you qualify for a 15 percent credit, you save … $7,500. If you save $7,500 a year from tax year 2010 through 2013, that’s total savings of $30,000. If, in 2014, you qualify for a slightly larger credit, say 20 percent, your savings go from $7,500 a year to $12,000 a year.
Even if you are a small business employer who did not owe tax during the year, you can carry the credit back or forward to other tax years. Also, since the amount of the health insurance premium payments are more than the total credit, eligible small businesses can still claim a business expense deduction for the premiums in excess of the credit. That’s both a credit and a deduction for employee premium payments.
•Your insurance company can’t raise rates by 10% or more without first explaining its reasons to your state or federal Rate Review program. All explanations will be posted on HealthCare.gov and your Rate Review program will give you a chance to comment on them.
The employer shared responsibility provisions, contained in section 4980H of the Internal Revenue Code (Code), provide that an applicable large employer (for this purpose, an employer with 50 or more full-time equivalent employees) could be subject to an assessable payment if any full-time employee is certified to receive an applicable premium tax credit or cost-sharing reduction payment. Generally, this may occur where either:
1.The employer does not offer to its full-time employees (and their dependents) the opportunity to enroll in minimum essential coverage under an eligible employer-sponsored plan; or
2.The employer offers its full-time employees (and their dependents) the opportunity to enroll in minimum essential coverage under an eligible employer-sponsored plan that either is unaffordable relative to an employee’s household income or does not provide minimum value.
Originally posted by lewman
lower stocks for the rich, higher wages for the poor and free decent medical care ...