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posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 08:39 PM
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Well if it is legit you are right that is an interesting picture with Obama. But even stranger was the commercial I saw on TV awhile back from the CIA looking for applicants. I thought I was in another dimension.
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posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 09:10 PM
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Originally posted by triune
]post by Scouser640[/url]
 


Perhaps you could enlarge on your vehement refusal to allow that Israel and Germany could form an alliance against Iran.

This exact scenario is under way right now in fact.

Netanyahu is going to Germany before the year is out to ask for German and French assistance in dealing with Iran. This is not my fertile imagination at work here. This trip and the reason for it has been publicly announced.

This will result in the scenario which I have outlined in my first post, i,e. Iran pushing back hard against Europe with an oil embargo leading to an escalation of tension between Europe and Iran.
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I have no clue what's going on between Israel and Germany. But an Israeli alliance with a nation that tried to eradicate them just a few decades ago in order to eradicate another country might be a bit of a tough sell to some. Plus the UK, Germany and France all told Benji off today for his settlement expansions, so perhaps they're not all as warm and cuddly as you seem to suggest. You haven't answered my question yet. What have Iran done to warrant the threat of an all out military attack by Israel?



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 10:08 PM
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I still think he will go at Iran. He knows that if he attacks Iran and they retaliate like I'm sure they will the US will come to their aid. Barry might be passive but won't let Israel burn.
I'm just glad Romney didn't get in or we would be setting this thing off ourselves.



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 11:29 PM
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Originally posted by Scouser640

Originally posted by triune
]post by Scouser640[/url]
 


Perhaps you could enlarge on your vehement refusal to allow that Israel and Germany could form an alliance against Iran.

This exact scenario is under way right now in fact.

Netanyahu is going to Germany before the year is out to ask for German and French assistance in dealing with Iran. This is not my fertile imagination at work here. This trip and the reason for it has been publicly announced.

This will result in the scenario which I have outlined in my first post, i,e. Iran pushing back hard against Europe with an oil embargo leading to an escalation of tension between Europe and Iran.
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I have no clue what's going on between Israel and Germany. But an Israeli alliance with a nation that tried to eradicate them just a few decades ago in order to eradicate another country might be a bit of a tough sell to some. Plus the UK, Germany and France all told Benji off today for his settlement expansions, so perhaps they're not all as warm and cuddly as you seem to suggest. You haven't answered my question yet. What have Iran done to warrant the threat of an all out military attack by Israel?


Well, just a few decades ago the USA dropped two atomic bombs on Japan. These days they enjoy very firm and benifical trade and military ties.

What does opposition to Israeli settlement have to do with containing Iranian nuclear weapon ambitions?

Yes, I have answered your question. Iran are the pay and puppet masters for muslim terrorism throughout the world. Both Iran and her proxies have repeatedly and continually claimed Israel is a conterfeit state and has no right to exist. They continue to claim they will push the israelies into the sea. They continue to state openly there will be no peace in the middle east until Israel ceases to exist as a country.

I think the Israeli Prime Minister is right to be very concerned about the future of his country and people.

The question of which country is right or wrong or who is to blame for the current mess is not the issue here.

The dangerous situation which has and continues to develop is the issue. World opinion is turning against Israel, rightly or wrongly. Israel is becoming friendless and desperate, surrounded by tradition enemies, abandoned by long term ally and protector, Israel must find a new friend and protector, and it will be Germany.

Germany traditionally is a militaristic and aggressive nation. They have extensive interests in the middle east being the largest supplier of armaments to that area in the shape of naval ships, submarines and tanks.
They will take military action to protect these interests and to keep oil flowing to European industry and transport. They will not be held to ransom by Iran withholding oil. They will take the issue head on and act where the US is too weak willed to act.



posted on Nov, 8 2012 @ 01:40 AM
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Originally posted by 1PLA1

Originally posted by DarthMuerte
The great thing about this is that the stage now seems to be set for Ezekiel 38. That will be awesome to see.


I'm hoping to be watching that from up there.

But, I'm with you Ezekiel 38 is not far off.



Turkey, Ethiopia, Iraq, Libya and Iran will get together and attack a nuclear-armed Israel?



posted on Nov, 8 2012 @ 01:49 AM
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If anyone really believes that Obama/The Amerika is not in Israels Pocket has their eyes shut


these are formalities, because it 'Supposed' to be that way, when the US are engaged in combat with Iran, the truth shall be illuminated



posted on Nov, 8 2012 @ 01:52 AM
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Netanyahu is the Donald Trump of the Mideast.



posted on Nov, 8 2012 @ 02:00 AM
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Beware now... America.

Beware by Netanyahu and his Dark Kabal.

A false flag attak on american soil (false iranians terrorists) or a strike on Iran without warning...



posted on Nov, 8 2012 @ 03:48 AM
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but I think if Obama were a trouble for Israel it could never become a president of USA ! who knows maybe Israel wanted us to think that Obama was a problem !
Israel knows well that Iran has influence throughout the middle east such acts can legitimate Iran to implement this influence against Israel !!!
so Israel and USA and EU are smart enough to know that they can not legitimate their acts against the chief of NAM and a signatory of NPT without any true evidence.
so I consider that just a theater.



posted on Nov, 8 2012 @ 01:43 PM
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If Israel strike Iran and Iran retalliate then that will auto bring in the US and Israel know this!!!!

Iran will also see all western targets as game! Much of what they will do will be back door through its terror network channels!

Watch the news over the next few months!!!!

Obama is just a level 17 clearance puppet!!!



posted on Nov, 8 2012 @ 04:06 PM
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Originally posted by MDDoxs


It appears that more people in the global context have voiced their disappointment with the recent election results. The comments from Natanyahu seem to promote the idea of a more extensive relationship between Israel and the US Republican party that many of us have made mention to.

Romney would have been a good Ally for Benji to have in the White house. Regardless, the Prime minister has once again made his intentions clear to continue seeking US assistance with the Iran issue.


"I will continue to work with President Obama to ensure the interests that are vital for the security of Israel's citizens," Netanyahu said in a short, congratulatory statement hailing what he called strong strategic relations with Washington.


Having been met with somewhat of a cold shoulder by the Obama Administration, Benji finds it prudent to reiterate that following:


"If there is no other way to stop Iran, Israel is ready to act."


With this I fear that Israel, realizing that the prospect of a staunch US president supporter being dashed, may bring them to some final decisions regarding Tehran.


ca.reuters.com
(visit the link for the full news article)


Meh.

As long as Obama makes clear to Israel that we will bomb them instead of Iran if they misbehave I think we can keep the peace.

Given Netanyahu's familiarity and fondness of "red lines" he should be able to comprehend that the US will aid Iran in the event of unwarranted military action.

At least...I HOPE Obama has enough integrity to take that position with him. Assuming the "tensions" between Obama and Israel aren't merely staged distractions and actually exist I would speculate that this would be logical course of action.

Let's keep our fingers crossed that Obama does the right thing here and makes it clear that Israel won't so much as sneeze unless we tell them to.



posted on Nov, 8 2012 @ 04:07 PM
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Originally posted by RP2SticksOfDynamite

If Israel strike Iran and Iran retalliate then that will auto bring in the US and Israel know this!!!!

Iran will also see all western targets as game! Much of what they will do will be back door through its terror network channels!

Watch the news over the next few months!!!!

Obama is just a level 17 clearance puppet!!!


Unless Obama takes Iran's side. It would be the responsible thing to do.



posted on Nov, 8 2012 @ 04:14 PM
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Originally posted by Arken
Beware now... America.

Beware by Netanyahu and his Dark Kabal.

A false flag attak on american soil (false iranians terrorists) or a strike on Iran without warning...


No doubt. I bought a big piece of white canvas w/ grommets in it about two years ago and stenciled in the word "FALSE" in black letters w/ spray paint.

Whenever the next BS "terror attack" happens that has a completely incoherent explanation the American Flag comes down and my "False" Flag goes up.

I'd love to see them beat the drums for war when instead of everyone slathering everything in the stars and stripes you drive down the road and see a bunch of "False" flags everywhere.

Remember..."they" didn't get us into a pair of unwinnable wars for no reason. WE DID. We were all accomplices in the deception when we started plastering 2/3 of everything we owned with flags and didn't demand REAL answers to questions before we started carpet bombing civilians for no reason.

I urge everyone to do the responsible thing and make your own "False" Flags to fly if/when we are fed the next load of warmongering nonsense.



posted on Nov, 8 2012 @ 04:22 PM
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Originally posted by Sissel

Originally posted by TheComte
Romney could just act like he won the election and continue to deal with Netanyahu.


Sadly, this guy is his own worst enemy, and an enemy of his own state.

Even sadder is that Obama has to deal with him at all.



No doubt. Romney's prolonged candidacy is a living testament to our failed educational system. Never mind the differences in political or economic ideologies... how stupid are we when millions of people vote for a guy who steadfastly REFUSES to disclose even an OVERVIEW of the mathematics of an economic plan that he purports would "create 12 million jobs".

I mean...that is almost MIRACULOUS. If you REALLY had figured out the magic recipe for this...wouldn't you want to brag about it a bit?

I know I would.



posted on Nov, 8 2012 @ 04:46 PM
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Originally posted by marg6043
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I bet the Israelis are crying right now, having a Muslim American president that now have enough collateral like his predecessor on his second term to pay out his pimps so Obama now can pay out his foreign Islamic Interest.

Israel no only should be sad but very, very afraid.

The Muslim brotherhood is going to cash out very soon on the second term of Obama.


Oh please..."muslim american president"??? When have you seen Obama pray towards Mecca? I rest my case.

As for Israel...let me get this straight. You WANT Israel to start WWIII for us? China and Russia have already outright stated that they will take Iran's side, our military is strained beyond capacity (in terms of humans...certainly not in terms of failed weapon systems or stockpiled military hardware) and we are beyond bankrupt.

Quite frankly, we would be easier to defeat now than we would have been at any time in our nations history. Attacking Iran would open up a window to attack us more tempting than a meat truck is to a dog. In fact...we would be practically BEGGING the Russians and Chinese to retaliate. If EVER they were going to do it...that would the opportune time.

Irrespective of how one feels about the politics and/or morality of attacking Iran or backing Israel...the BEST reason to not do so is that we will lose. BADLY.

We haven't been able to decisively win a major armed conflict in 67 years...INCLUDING THE TWO CIRCLE JERKS we are currently losing.

How many 19 year old farm boys and 35 yr old reservists do you feel is an appropriate amount of cannon fodder to expend to support ISRAEL'S political goals? I vote for ZERO. How many coffins do you feel are acceptable?
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posted on Nov, 8 2012 @ 05:22 PM
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Originally posted by luciddream
It just spells America will not be an accomplice for Israels tyranny.

I'm starting to believe people that voted Romney actually wanted 2nd "Iraq war" with Iran, along with a inflation, dead soldiers and increased tax.


You must not have a brain. Israel has been pushed around forever and not just by Iran. They do need to go to war and The US won't help, because it's all part of the end times. Israel is not tyrannical. If they were don't you think they would have ignored the UN a long time ago and just level that piss pore excuse for a country? Iran needs to go down and Israel doesn't need America's help they have the biggest supporter in the universe.



posted on Nov, 8 2012 @ 05:26 PM
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Originally posted by milominderbinder

Originally posted by Sissel

Originally posted by TheComte
Romney could just act like he won the election and continue to deal with Netanyahu.


Sadly, this guy is his own worst enemy, and an enemy of his own state.

Even sadder is that Obama has to deal with him at all.



No doubt. Romney's prolonged candidacy is a living testament to our failed educational system. Never mind the differences in political or economic ideologies... how stupid are we when millions of people vote for a guy who steadfastly REFUSES to disclose even an OVERVIEW of the mathematics of an economic plan that he purports would "create 12 million jobs".

I mean...that is almost MIRACULOUS. If you REALLY had figured out the magic recipe for this...wouldn't you want to brag about it a bit?

I know I would.


Hey Einstein both those idiots always dodge the question. Neither one answered anything on any of the debates. They'd tip toe around every question. So don't talk about Romney like he's the only one, Your savior Obama is just as dumb if not dumber.



posted on Nov, 8 2012 @ 05:39 PM
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I'm sure Ben Yahoo, certainly wasn't yahooing when he learned Obama won the election. He was probably on the floor having a tantrum and cursing at the TV. I'm sure he was counting on having Romney commit our soldiers into accompany him into Iran.



posted on Nov, 8 2012 @ 05:49 PM
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Originally posted by Wanderer777

Originally posted by milominderbinder

Originally posted by Sissel

Originally posted by TheComte
Romney could just act like he won the election and continue to deal with Netanyahu.


Sadly, this guy is his own worst enemy, and an enemy of his own state.

Even sadder is that Obama has to deal with him at all.



No doubt. Romney's prolonged candidacy is a living testament to our failed educational system. Never mind the differences in political or economic ideologies... how stupid are we when millions of people vote for a guy who steadfastly REFUSES to disclose even an OVERVIEW of the mathematics of an economic plan that he purports would "create 12 million jobs".

I mean...that is almost MIRACULOUS. If you REALLY had figured out the magic recipe for this...wouldn't you want to brag about it a bit?

I know I would.


Hey Einstein both those idiots always dodge the question. Neither one answered anything on any of the debates. They'd tip toe around every question. So don't talk about Romney like he's the only one, Your savior Obama is just as dumb if not dumber.


#1. Obama isn't "my savior". I don't vote for Republicans or Democrats anymore.

#2. Yes...all politicians dodge questions and give partial answers. I just found Romney/Ryan to be perhaps the most exceptionally dishonest, deceptive, and secretive campaign I've ever seen. I didn't really expect for Romney to release the full 800 pages of his tax proposal...but a couple bullet points with actual numbers in them would have been nice. Something more than "we're gonna close loopholes" and "don't you guys worry your pretty little heads about the rest".

#3. Neither Obama nor Romney are "dumb". They BOTH graduated Harvard Law School. OTHER adjectives to describe one or both of them such as dishonest, greedy, warmongering, corrupt, zealots, and backwards come to mind...but neither one is stupid. Either one could academically run circles around you.

Sorry your guy lost...but there really isn't necessary to take out frustrations on everyone else.






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