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The republicans need a serious overhaul in strategy.

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posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 08:11 AM
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Originally posted by Jaellma
What's next for the republican party?

If I had to wager an answer, it would mean they must, must change their demographics going forward. The republican party is too white, not inclusive and sexist. They were warned many years ago to start their overhaul but they have failed to make serious inroads.

Let me say it now and loud: unless the republicans change their strategy they WILL NOT win another election in the foreseeable future.

Obama wiped the floor when it came to the Latino vote, especially in Florida. They campaigned hard and stayed steady. Kudos to David Plouffe for being hands down the best campaign organizer I have ever seen.

Yeah, there is Marco Rubio to push with in 2016 but he is only 1 man. They not only need to use talent like him but also reach out to the Latino community and the women voters.

I think the republicans are sitting on a gold mine in terms of opportunity but they are just stuck in a horrible paradigm and change cannot come quickly enough for them.
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They need to know how to stuff the ballot boxes better than the democrats.




posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 08:13 AM
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In my opinion, the Republicans need to drop the social conservative, moral majority crap. That is the reason I left the party years ago. They need to go with what they are best at, fiscal responsibility. Telling someone who they can marry, what they can do with their body, whether they can do this or do that is not small gov and liberty...it has a ring of nanny state as well, just a little different than the other guys.

I would suggest they take a long hard look at the ideas of Ron Paul and the Libertarian platform. The policies of the middle ages needs to go bye-bye...let people be free, let them prosper, let them love and marry who they want, let them make choices for themselves...get out of the way and let them do their best...

Pretty simple to me.



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 08:14 AM
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1) Republicans need to take Minority vote serious and try to reach out to them, the Minorities are going to increase and if they keep this path, they will never win.

2) They(mainly men) need to stop talking about women and rape without a clear understanding and education.

3) World is moving forward, not staying like in the "old days", so get ready to accept different type of people, with different gender and skin colour.


Just my Observation.
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posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 08:16 AM
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Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
reply to post by detachedindividual
 


Romneys or Republicans pushing of religious and moral nonsense is no different than Obamas or the Democrats pushing of equality and safety nonsense.

Both are fantasies sold to little tyrants who get off on telling their neighbors how to live their lives.

The religious zealot harping on abortion is no better or worse than the nanny state zealot screaming about guns or wealth redistribution. They're both small time dictators looking for an outlet to satisfy their emotional instability.


I think you're wrong. Religion is a personal system of belief, often imposed upon others against their will through government, even when such issues do not affect those who demand such changes based on their own religious ideas. Equality is a fundamental, open to all, improving the lives of everyone and not picking and choosing who is more valid based on the God they believe in - or don't.

It doesn't affect a Republican if a gay couple in New York can marry.
It doesn't affect a Republican if a woman in Nevada can have an abortion.
It does affect the freedom of a gay person if they are told they are not allowed the same status as a heterosexual couple.
It does affect the freedom of a woman in Nevada if she is instructed that she doesn't have the right to make her own choices.

That is what it comes down to. You cannot possibly claim that Republicans have the right to dictate their religious beliefs onto others, and that people don't have the right to make their own future. That is what the Republican party mantra is. They try to deflect by suggesting that a vote for Dems is a vote for bigger government, but the Dems are not the ones sticking their noses into the lives of others where it doesn't belong!

This comes back again to the massive clear hypocrisy of the Republican party, saying one thing while doing another. The party cannot claim to be all about personal freedom and choice, and then add the caveat "as long as you're a radical Christian, white, heterosexual male who believes in everything we believe in!"

That is effectively what they do. They claim to be about smaller government, personal destiny and freedom, while telling everyone they don't agree with that their rules have to be enforced for all, even when those choices have no effect on them.



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 08:18 AM
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Originally posted by Jaellma

Their strategy sucks and until it changes, you will never see another republican sitting in the White House. It's that simple.



Irrelevant.

Obama is for all intents and purposes doing exactly what Bush Jr. did. The reason and rhetoric may sound different but the actions are the same. In many cases they are exactly the same going so far as to explicitly continue and even expand Bush era policies

Cheerlead your favorite team all you want. It's your own demise you're applauding.

How anyone can praise one man for doing the same things they condemned another man for just confounds me.



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 08:21 AM
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Republicans depend on a shrinking demographic, white men.

This isn't a racial statement, it isn't attacking them, this is what the Republicans say themselves. You can find many examples from last night saying that they only way they can win is if the electorate is white enough and male enough.

The demographics of America are changing, and if Republicans don't adapt, they are a dead party.



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 08:23 AM
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Originally posted by detachedindividual

I think you're wrong. Religion is a personal system of belief, often imposed upon others against their will through government, even when such issues do not affect those who demand such changes based on their own religious ideas. Equality is a fundamental, open to all, improving the lives of everyone and not picking and choosing who is more valid based on the God they believe in - or don't.



Equality is an impossible illusion. Just like the god of the republicans.

It does affect everyone when the state steps in and approves of any interpersonal endeavor.

The state should have no say whatsoever in who I marry. Every time the (for lack of better term) left wins a gay marriage victory they are justifying the control of everyone by the state. If they really want to separate themselves from the republicans they would be fighting to get the state out of marriage altogether. But they arent. Because they enjoy the control of state dictation just as much as the bible thumping republican.

Same goes for abortion. The state has no business condemning or approving or the procedure.

Every one of these perceived wins for "equality" is really a poorly veiled win for control over you and me and everyone else.

The republicans claim of small government is indeed bunk. As is the democrats claim of social justice.
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posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 08:23 AM
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swear i saw the same thread 4 years ago.... winning is so good



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 08:24 AM
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As weird as it sounds the former GOP Chairman, Michael Steele (who they drove out) had a great point...the GOP needs to stop having a litmus test for membership. They need to accept any and everyone who identifies as conservative and stop demanding that people conform to their archaic views on social issues such as abortion and gay amrriage.

It's ironic that the party of small government keeps proposing legislation to encroach on the civil liberties of citizens.



Until they fix that, they are dead in the water.
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posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 08:25 AM
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This is a pure demographics issue. Every year, attrition will ensure the Republican party is more and more irrelevant.

If they want to be a national party, going forward, they MUST jettison the religious right, and embrace women, and minorities.



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 08:25 AM
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I think last night was a referendum on Social Conservatism. This is what failed the Republican Party last night. Just about everyone can agree that Fiscal Conservatism is actually the strength of the Republican Party.

America wasn't born of on the ideas of Social Conservatism. (for the time) it was born of Social Liberalism (of it's time again) That very liberalism is at the very core of what this nation is all about.

Believe what you want, say, and do what you want, (within reason) those are very liberal values.

The overhaul the GOP must make is to get back to real basic sane Fiscal Conservatism. And lay off the Social Conservatism that has been their primary concern for quite a while now.

The GOP has way too many people on the fringe. And they have to balance that out with more moderate ideas as far as Social Conservatism, while focusing more on Fiscal Conservatism. And they will see their numbers go up.

The social conservative message drove people off. It's not what this country is about. Last night proved that.



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 08:28 AM
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But they cant. For the same reasons the Democrats cant.

Nobody wants to vote for freedom.

The Democrats can only pretend as in gay marriage. They cant suggest the state remove itself form marriage entirely because the people dont want to lose that little piece of dictatorial power they have. In the same way the Republicans wont actually follow through with their fantastic tales of small government.

Everyone wants to be a slave driver. The guy holding the whip. Democrats and Republicans alike. They just play semantics to give the illusion of choice.



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 08:33 AM
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One way I had THOUGHT the GOP would attack this issue was by running Mia Love (african american woman) in 2016.

However, she just lost her election to a Democrat....in UTAH.

So I guess they need to find their new "superstar"...I guess they will just have to go with Rubio...even though he damaged himself quite a bit during this election.



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 08:34 AM
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Irrelevant post you are posting. Doesn't matter if the message is the same. It all comes down to delivery and perception of "what's in it for me". So far, the republicans have been doing a real $hitty job of it. Bottom line is they need a new strategy.



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 08:38 AM
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Originally posted by Jaellma
reply to post by thisguyrighthere
 
Irrelevant post you are posting. Doesn't matter if the message is the same. It all comes down to delivery and perception of "what's in it for me". So far, the republicans have been doing a real $hitty job of it. Bottom line is they need a new strategy.



Which brings us back to politics simply being a sports contest to entertain the masses.
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posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 08:41 AM
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Possibly true. TPTB really pull the strings regardless who is in there. It's like going to the Bunny Ranch and having to make a decision on which whore to pick: the blonde vixen with full lips or the buxom redhead with the long legs. Regardless who you pick, you still have to pay the owners before you leave the place.



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 08:46 AM
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They need to set their priorities straight. They should have devoted their time to helping out the country rather than spending their time making sure the incumbent is a "one-term" President.

www.youtube.com...



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 08:49 AM
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I think the republican strategy worked fabulous.
1. They sidelinned Ron Paul through voter fraud
2. They created the most partisan election of american history, despite both working for wallstreet, which in turn sidelined gary johnson's third party run
3. Romney conceded to Obama despite news of voter fraud, need any more proof they are working for the same team? So in other words it doesn't matter who won, America lost.

So they sideline ron paul and gary johnson, pull a political theatre over the public's eyes to distract from the storm, wars, economy, etc, and ultimately are proud of picking a socialist to compete with obama, so either way, Obamacare was winning.



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 08:53 AM
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Originally posted by alternateuniverse
Republicans don't need to overhaul anything. The United States is upside down.


Beg to differ. They need to allow "their" people's voice to be heard.

They fraudulently advanced Mitt Romney to the head of the line when Republicans were clearly backing Ron Paul.

This is what they got. Can't say that I am surprised.

Imagine if they had played fair with their own base.



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 08:55 AM
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Exactly.

If the D's and R's were switched the D's would have done the same. They did back in the day with Nader and making a downright hostile environment against the majorty R's at the time to fire up the peons with hatred.

It's all about maintaining their own status. Every entity does it. Dogs piss in their corners and in every office the world over, private and public, employees first task is to keep their budget year after year.

The politicians are the same as any other office or department. The number one goal is keeping their jobs and power and the easiest way to do that is to keep the voters agitated. The last thing any alleged problem solver wants is a solution to a problem. Then they'd be out of work.



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