Puerto Rico has voted to join the union. It is to be the 51st state after congressional approval, ma

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posted on Nov, 8 2012 @ 02:00 PM
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There are a few physical requirements, population of 60,000 and defined borders. You have to be able to have enough income to sustain yourself as a state.




posted on Nov, 8 2012 @ 02:00 PM
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The New Progressive Party there wants statehood (Progressive is always socialist)


hereandnow.wbur.org...

Looks like the New Progressive Party is covering all their bets


Three NPP gubernatorial candidates registered nationally as Republicans (Luis A. Ferré, Baltasar Corrada and Luis Fortuño) while three NPP gubernatorial candidates registered nationally as Democrats (Carlos Romero Barceló, Carlos Pesquera and Pedro Rosselló). The current Governor, Luis G. Fortuño, caucused with the Republicans when he was in Congress and serves as Puerto Rico's Republican National Committeeman, while Resident Commissioner Pedro Pierluisi is a Democrat.


en.wikipedia.org...
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posted on Nov, 8 2012 @ 02:27 PM
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Almost 60% (2/3) of PRs live and vote here now? Did I read that right? Why bother becoming a state? They've got the best of both worlds!

Did the almost 60% living in the US take part in this referendum? If not, I don't know how meaningful the results could be. If not, it means over half the country didn't vote (unless PR went to the trouble of mailing out absentee ballots for a non-binding referendum, possible, but not likely).

Great thread. Original (compared to what we've been seeing lately), timely, entertaining, and informative. I needed a good dumbing up.



posted on Nov, 8 2012 @ 02:32 PM
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I knew it!

Although it's more complicated than I thought, this blogger has some interesting thoughts on it


This legislation is about the most blatant act to further disenfranchise – and mind you I never use that word ever – and actually perpetuates the discriminatory and ‘racial’ – treatment of Puertoricans. The liberals set up the system of dependency that will always make these people look like a bunch of lazy moochers who only want to get money from the federal government and don’t want to work. If the feds would stay the hell out of the Commonwealth and out of the states’ sovereignty and allow for free markets to flourish again then there would be no need to dump public funds into everything! The Progressive Party (Blue) hides behind the Republican shield while the Popular (People’s is the correct translation) Democratic Party (Red) fights for Commonwealth status to remain even though they are card-carrying FDR libs themselves, perhaps a notch above the progressive part but not by much. The independence party bears a green flag but I’m sure you’re not interested in that right now.


If this bill passes the economic situation on the island will spiral completely out of control and that’s just a breath away believe me, as scores of people are on the verge of being unemployed because of lack of government jobs, lack of industries that create real jobs and increasing cost of living! This is the final blow for America because as I reported before this is all an experiment and believe me, the stuff growing in that petri dish is oozing over the edge and spilling all over the place. It will travel faster than you think. Today, call your representative and stop a great injustice. Any of you Republicans in Congress voting for this atrocity will pay dearly as you are about to unleash great harm upon this great land.


novacancy1776.wordpress.com...
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posted on Nov, 8 2012 @ 02:40 PM
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I have been in Puerto Rico for over 4 months now. I can say that this will be bad for Puerto Rico in the long run if it is approved. Taxes will definitely increase if this measure goes through.

I will say though that from my perspective there are a lot of Puertorequenos that have the attitude of "Money come here. Gringo go home." Around here they will get buddy buddy with you just to rob you blind. Expect more of the same if they do become a state. As a caveat though there are some good Puertoricans, but they are a minority sadly.



posted on Nov, 8 2012 @ 02:45 PM
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The implications r big. Additional senators and house reps mean additional electoral votes. If repubs r serious about jeb bush in 2016, repub controlled house could favor admittance.



posted on Nov, 8 2012 @ 02:48 PM
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posted on Nov, 8 2012 @ 03:24 PM
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According to your C.I.C it would be the 58th state. Too funny.



posted on Nov, 8 2012 @ 03:29 PM
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What is your obsession with Obama. I really don't care who won the election. Neither candidate could fix the mess our country is in. The people of our country think they deserve more than they need, that is the problem. I am more of a Capitalist than I am a Socialist. The only thing I think should be socialized is health care. I owned a successful business for twenty years and voted for both Bushes both times. I also voted for Reagan. Under their rein they just dug a deeper grave for America as did Clinton. The whole political system which makes lawmakers give federal funds away to get votes is what caused the mess we are in. No president by himself caused this mess, the system did. We need to revamp the system.

Replacing roads that needed replacing didn't put us in debt, it was replacing roads that didn't need it that did. Hiring government employees to look over the government expenditures did not get us in this shape, it was the high cost upper management of the government that caused our debt. The wages of the military did not contribute to our national debt either, it was the expensive modern technology that doesn't work as expected that caused such high costs.

Stimulating the economy to show growth is what caused much of our mess. Building things that did not need to be built like coliders in Texas. These are expenditures that just fulfill a few persons dreams. I see a lot of problems throughout our government and with many of our people. I am an American and will honor the president no matter who gets chosen, he is the leader of our country. I respect all Senators and Representatives except a few that are too headstrong.



posted on Nov, 8 2012 @ 03:32 PM
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Puerto Rican Statehood Unlikely to Pass Through Congress,

latino.foxnews.com...



posted on Nov, 8 2012 @ 04:06 PM
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My thoughts precisely! 51st state and I'm happy to have you.



posted on Nov, 8 2012 @ 04:29 PM
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Good puertoricans are a minority....are you serious?
Then smart americans are a minority also right?



posted on Nov, 8 2012 @ 05:40 PM
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WOW ONLY 6 MORE TO MAKE UP THE 57 SATES THAT BHO SAID WE HAD.



posted on Nov, 8 2012 @ 06:07 PM
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DC statehood is constitutionally impossible as the US Constitution mandates the existence of a Federal district separate from the states of the Union.

Besides, you have the DC Voting Rights Act (Electoral College representation & presidential vote) which is more than Puerto Rico has. DC also has a US Senate delegate in addition to a US House of Representatives delegate while PR, Guam, American Samoa, the Northern Mariana Islands, and the US Virgin Islands only have a US House delegate.



posted on Nov, 8 2012 @ 06:19 PM
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Originally posted by Nyiah

Originally posted by PhoenixOD
So whats the new flag of America going to look like?


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Probably a star layout like this:
11,9,11,9,11

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I could see a possible star design out of those stars, too. Arrange all the stars in to one huge star, that would be pretty cool. (I'm not artsy-fartsy enough to try it, though)


Edit: I just realized my 9-11 alternations there. That was not intentional, no conspiracy remarks needed
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Uhoh, and using some fun with numerology.... 51 = 5 + 1 = 6, United States has 6 + 6 letters... 6 6 6



posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 07:53 AM
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Like I said the vast majority that I have come across have the attitude "Money come here. Gringo go home." They will get buddy buddy with you just to rob you blind. I have witnessed this happen first hand to others. I warn the "tourists" of what to expect when they get here because they don't have a clue. I have seen many Americans come to Puerto Rico with no income and no way to get back because of their ignorance to the above concept.



posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 08:00 AM
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Don't let it bug you too much..... I know my friend Jose and his family are good people, they moved back to PR about the time I headed to Canada. And PR girls are smoking hot too



posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 10:43 AM
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I know why DC can't be a state. Problem is, that the Founding Fathers didn't know it would grow into the big metropolitan area that it is, with a half a million residents. They thought it would be a government center and nothing else.

Yes, DC has repsentatives, but they can't vote. They merely observe. So you have 600,000 Americans who are taxed without representation.

What they need to do is change the city borders, shrink them down to the city center and include the federal buildings, and giving the surrounding areas that have inhabitants, back to Maryland.

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posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 09:58 PM
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I also heard something ridiculous the other day that in the U.S. House some Rep. brought up having Guam made a State at the same time as Puerto Rico just so the U.S. Flag could have it's STARS equally distanced! LOL!
Unreal! Split Infinity



posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 10:06 PM
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It is important to note that Puerto Rico is of EXTREME Strategic importance as well as there being a Massive U.S. Military presence on the Island. If they vote to become a State...we will accept their entry into the Union.

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