Originally posted by sam_inc
The Illuminati won today
Originally posted by jhn7537
Why do all the Obama fans act like great change is coming?? We just had 4 years with Obama and the country is still in shambles, so I'm not sure how everyone is seeing this great change.... But let's be real, obviously a democratic president who gives free money out to desperate "entitled" folks will win, he's essentially buying votes... Well at the end of the day I'm allowed to complain over the next 4 years because I voted for Romney. All you Obama lovers can't complain, you got your wish so you I better not hear a peep out of you over the next term..
Originally posted by Polymath
reply to post by westcoast
Agreed X2. Did you, like me, exercise your rights as an American and not vote?
On a side note, my posts keep getting burried.
Off-Topic: Coast, I recognize your name when I was a long time lurker so maybe you can answer my question. I'll send you a U2U (I think that's what it's called on here) that way I don't go more off-topic.
BILL MOYERS: How can this happen? How could Washington turn its back on the broad middle class to favor a relatively few at the top in a democracy?
JACOB HACKER: What has really changed is the organization of American politics, particularly the organizations that represent the deepest pocketed members of American society.
What we've seen as an organizational revolution over the last 30 years that has meant that business, and Wall Street, and ideological conservative organizations that are pushing for free market policies have all become much more influential.
And at the same time, a lot of the organizations that once represented the middle class, labor unions, broad-based civic organizations and, sort of, organizations at the local and grassroots level, including social movements, have all lost enormous ground.
JACOB HACKER: ...these large shifts in our economy had been propelled in part by what government has done, say deregulating the market, the financial markets, to allow wealthy people to gamble with their own and other peoples' money, and ways to put all of us at risk, but allow them to make huge fortunes.
And at the same time, when those risks have become apparent, there has been a studious effort on the part of political leaders to try to protect against government stepping in and regulating or changing the rules.
BILL MOYERS You write, ... our public officials have rewritten the rules of the economy in ways that favor the few at the expense of the many.
Why do the winners get policies that make their winnings even larger? You know, this is not a trivial change. If you say from the mid-90s to 2007, those top 400 tax payers, they've seen their tax rates decline so much that it's worth about $46 million for every one--
PAUL PIERSON: The Bush tax cuts in a lot of ways were written like a subprime mortgage. You know, they were designed to make people see certain things, and not see a lot of the fine print.
JACOB HACKER: Fully 30 to 40 percent of the benefits were going to the very top, of the income distribution. The top one percent. And when you broke it down, it was really the top one-tenth of one percent that did so well because of the estate tax changes, and because of the changes in the top tax rates, the changes in the capital gains taxes. And if you go to 2003, changes in the dividend tax.
Originally posted by Grimpachi
Well I couldn’t sleep I have to get moving in a few hours anyway.
Oh well it’s OK. I have to say this is the first election the guy I voted for won.
I believe things will get better from here on out. The people have spoken and Obama won.
Originally posted by Starchildren
I will never vote for a president who gives us TSA in the airport. I cannot fly because I still suffer trauma from a rape, and do not want an agent to touch me. I cannot believe Obama allows this to go in our airports and allows citizens to be treated as if we are the criminals.
NDAA was another turning point for me. The cowardly drone attacks in Pakistan. This did it all in for me, as I sat one night looking at a photo of a man in a great deal of pain after losing his wife, newborn, and three children all in one shot, after a drone attack.
He is in too deep now and he won't stop the drone attacks, or the TSA's molestation at the airport, reverse some Bush policies, close the gulag etc.
Originally posted by Hefficide
OK... now that ATS is mostly quiet... my one moment of gloating....
I CALLED IT!!! I CALLED IT!!! I called my shot and came out without being utterly humiliated and forever marked!!!
(insert rhythmically challenged happy dance ~here~)
Now pretend this never happened.
Originally posted by SaturnFX
Obama done speech.
guy is a jedi of words.