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reply posted on 7-11-2012 @ 11:13 AM by AfterInfinity
reply to post by EllaMarina


So that's how a Republican reacts to not getting their way...now I feel fully justified in voting for a Democrat.

Ma'am, you've made my day.
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reply posted on 7-11-2012 @ 11:44 AM by domasio
Reply to post by EllaMarina


Feel sorry for you.

As much as I love my motherm she's much the same, her opinion is the only one that matters.

Hell, even when it comes to the X Factor here in the UK, she looooooves Gary Barlow, and she thinks she can go on a bitchy rant and call me ridiculous because I think he is an untalented doychebag?

Olden day people, good thing they are not having much influence nowadays, young people are thankfully having a better impact, well, the ones that aren't on their computers all day


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reply posted on 7-11-2012 @ 01:22 PM by NoJoker13
reply to post by EllaMarina


Ignorance anyone? Glasses all around for anyone calling anyone a traitor.



reply posted on 7-11-2012 @ 02:54 PM by AfterInfinity
reply to post by sheepslayer247


So having an opinion and voting differently than one's parents is disrespectful...


It's always been like that. Hell, if my mother was talking and I said anything back that wasn't sucking up or degrading myself, it was talking back.

I suppose that's what happens when your mother is Irish.


reply posted on 7-11-2012 @ 03:52 PM by essanance
reply to post by sheepslayer247


Bravo you are the best and the smartest of us all , man its great you are here to lead us lost souls thru the darkness and into the light ..THANK THE HEAVENS FOR YOU YOUR THE BEST EVER !!!!


reply posted on 7-11-2012 @ 06:46 PM by JadeX
reply to post by EllaMarina



Hi Ella,

Wow your story brought back memories. Back in 2000 I had a similar thing happen. You see my dad, who is heavily into politics and a strong Democrat raised us all to vote often and most importantly vote our convictions. He also was a big fan of Ralph Nader until 2000 rolled around.

I told him prior to the election that I was doing as he taught me and voting for Nader since our state, PA would likely go for Gore anyway.

After the debacle of the 2000 election he blamed Nader and people like me who voted for him as "giving the election to George Bush".

I reminded him that, no, "the Secretary of State of Florida and the Supreme Court did that."

He then said we made it so that Gore couldn't win.

I responded to him that "If Al Gore had not run away from his views on global warming many of those who voted for the Green Party would have voted for him. Therefore Gore beat himself by running from who he told us he was. He tried to be too many things to too many disparate interest. Had he stuck to his guns people at least people would have known where he stood and been more enthusiastic about his candidacy."

Sound familiar?

My father and I didn't speak for a week after that. At one point even recently when the subject came up again he got angry about it.

I do not know how old your mom is but my father was born in 1927 and there's something about people that age, they tend to be very hard nosed about their political views and often see everything as zero-sum, all or nothing. "If they win, the country will go to hell", etc.

Last week we talked about that election again and he thanked me for always voting, even when i voted my convictions because he said that he taught me well in that I vote in every election.

We healed after about a week and 12 years later he admits I did the right thing.

Hopefully your mother will come around. Politics should not come between families any more than a difference in religion should. It's a personal choice.
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reply posted on 7-11-2012 @ 08:00 PM by Allenb83
reply to post by EllaMarina


It is just one of those things in life where you have to stand alone. People don't understand and it takes a higher level of scrutiny, a higher level of conscious thought, to really know what is going on with this country and act and vote accordingly. Collectively in this country, Johnson got over a million votes. I voted for him too and my state got over 40,000 votes for him. I think he got the most votes in libertarian history, and that is saying a lot, and even though it wasn't 5% in any state, it got to nearly half of that in quite a few.
They talk about the 1% a lot and how they make the most money, but we are the other 1%... the very informed, intelligent few that voted to get this country out of this mess.
The next 4 years are going to be scary, and they are going to be filled with uncertainty. I am just very happy. I am glad that I am able to sleep well at night knowing that I contributed to the solution rather than four more years of a 2 party problem.


reply posted on 7-11-2012 @ 08:13 PM by NewAgeMan
Originally posted by EllaMarina
I never thought this would happen.

My mom (a Romney fan) and I went to the polling place. The wait felt approximately as long as the line for a semi-popular ride at Disney World during busy season. But none of this mattered much, because I was eager to add my vote for Gary Johnson.

In the line, I arranged a day out with my mom tomorrow. We would have a great time. Today would be a good day too. Vote for Gary Johnson, go home, get some coffee, relax.

But it wasn't to be...
In the car after we were done voting, she asked me if I voted Republican, and I told her the truth without thinking.
She-- blew-- UP.

She said some pretty creative things that I didn't think a person would ever be inclined to say to one's own daughter.
"You are so stupid"... "I feel like I have a traitor in my own home"... "I asked you to do this ONE THING for me"... (For a few minutes I thought she was going to kick me out of the house.) Her biggest rant was that I just wasted my vote, and that I basically gave one to Obama.

I made the point that a vote is only wasted if it's for someone you don't believe in. I also mentioned sadly that this election has divided everyone like no other, family member against family member. She scoffed icily at everything I said, and continued on to say that she never even heard of Gary Johnson at all... and then that I knew nothing of politics and couldn't possibly make an informed decision...

I'm alone in my room now. I'm kind of scared of how she'll act towards me. One thing's for sure, our nice day out tomorrow is probably called off.
I wanted so much to make the point that this country is based on freedom, and that includes the freedom to vote for who I want. But it wouldn't have made a difference.


That is both simultaneously the saddest, and, the funniest thing I've ever heard.

Thank you, for being you.

Pray for her - what else can you do. Love her and remember what Jesus said as he hung on the cross

"Forive them father for they know not what they do."




reply posted on 7-11-2012 @ 08:40 PM by NewAgeMan
reply to post by EllaMarina


Show your mother this thread and leave her to read through it, and she'll see how much you love her and how important you feel your relationship with her is, regardless of political affiliation. Take the risk I think it would be worth it, because a mother's love is always unconditional, in the final analysis. That's my advice or two cents for whatever it's worth.
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