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OMG... Race IS really an issue for some? STILL???

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posted on Nov, 6 2012 @ 08:54 PM
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I have no doubt that this is the case - but that doesn't take away from my shock that this type of thought pattern is still possible in the year 2012.

Again, she's an amazing sweet woman. The fact that her guilt seems to be focused upon racial lines is what I don't personally like. If she has guilt over privilege she could work in a soup kitchen, give blankets to the homeless, etc. The very fact that the environment around here has led her to this place, emotionally and mentally, is, IMO, the issue.

It just shows me that the need for dialogue is still with us and something that bears merit.

~Heff




posted on Nov, 6 2012 @ 08:57 PM
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Well, one would have to ask people who insult pale people as "Aryans" what their intention are.
Clearly it's an albophobic slur intended to cause hurt.

Sure, some radical whites (especially neo-Nazis) have created a type of mythology around the term, and proudly own it.
Therefore I'd think the majority of whites, who are certainly not Nazis, would consider that a racial slur.

As far as I recall the term "Aryan" referred to the area now called Iran and central Asia.
By Nordic standards "Aryans" are probably not really "white".

The Indo-European languages can apparently trace linguistic migrations from this region both to the west and east.

Racism and slavery based on skin tone was not unique to the West.

In India the Brahmin caste was often lighter than the untouchables, and at least two famous Indian gurus from the lighter caste who influenced the West made some astoundingly racist comments about black people (which I won't repeat here).

Skin lightening creams remain a very damaging problem in India and other countries, since becoming lighter is thought to improve one's social position.
So racism based on skin is in no way a recent and uniquely Western phenomenon.



posted on Nov, 6 2012 @ 08:58 PM
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I live in the south. There is racism and reverse racism everywhere.
There are people who won't vote for Obama because he is "black".
Or bi-racial, which is looked down on by many, but from what I see is the fastest growing segment of the
population where I live.
So go figure.
There are black people who will only vote for Obama because he is black.
There are black people who won't vote for Obama because he is black.

That's just the way it is.

But, there are people who are fearful that if Obama loses there will be race rioting and shouts of racism.
There are white people who want Obama to win because they know he will get blamed for the continuing
financial problems that will continue to get worse no matter who gets elected.

And that's the truth from where I sit with my ears and eyes wide open.

Edit to add: I didn't vote at all (I'm a conscientious objector).
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posted on Nov, 6 2012 @ 09:12 PM
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Vote for the candidate with your favorite color tie.


That's an idea!



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 12:20 AM
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Most voters seem to allow personal affiliations to be the deciding factor on there vote, with absolutly no regard to whom is better suited to lead. This is most likely the reason 90% of the campain presents information about affiliations instead of demonstrating leadership capacity. It is also likely the reason you feel so frustrated by others justifications towards there vote, as it further propegates to washington that the majority of voters will vote for who they like the most, and who will fight for dominance of whatever affiliations they hold. This is all irrelevent to qualities of a good leader, however that really has nothing to do with the vote anymore, just people thinking there subjective view of the right leader is inherintly the one that agrees with them.



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 03:13 AM
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Just wait 'til we have a woman up there...They will be coming out in droves
Saying oh NO her sex has nothing to do with my vote.

BS

I can't say I really blame them. Once the novelty of having choices other than a white guy in a suit wears off, people will go back to strictly using reason to cast their vote...let's hope so anyway...if any of it really matters that is


Nice Post BTW

A fb friend/actual friend of mine posted this something like this tonight:

'I'm so happy that I will be able to tell my daughter that that the first time I voted it was for the first black president' (he's 20)

My reply: That's Awesome!! Hopefully when our daughters are old enough to understand politics they will be shocked that race was ever an issue.

I am happy for him, I share in his triumph, and I feel NO guilt.

Peace
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posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 06:07 AM
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The only real issue is the fact the Obama has destroyed the 4th amendment completely.

You know it's strange and hilarious at the same time, you talk to an Obama supporter about NDAA and NDRP, they show almost no rational thought of their own. It's like their programmed soulless flesh bodies who can't think for themselves.

Again, if you voted for Obama, you support the destruction of the 4th amendment.

I don't care if your voting for the lesser of 2 evils, there is no excuse to destroy your fellow man's rights as a citizen in this country.



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 07:03 AM
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One of the most disturbing statements I've ever heard from a child came out of my 8-year-old son's mouth last night. Before I state it, just let it be on the record that I do not talk about politics with or in front of my elementary school children (or any other adult-oriented topic, for that matter). One of his best friends in school is a little girl, very cute, and he talks about her a lot. Last night, as I was upstairs getting the kids ready for bed, my husband had on CNN watching the election stuff, he bubbled up and said, "Jay told me that if Mitt Romney wins, he's going to kill all the black people, so she might not come back to school. " And then he asks with a very concerned tone in his voice, "Is that true?"
!!

What? The Freak? This came from a third grader. And she didn't come up with that out of thin air, so what exactly are her parents teaching her? Yes. Racism is high on both sides of the fence.
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posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 08:02 AM
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I don't think voting matters, but my personal opinions aside, here's my take on it:

The majority of Americans are not black....a lot of blacks don't even vote....Obama, so far, has the most popular votes.

ATS, this means that people who are not black gave him the necessary push to win the election. There are those who hate him, because he is black and those who love him for the same reason, but in the end, everyone pitched in to secure him 4 more years.

This means that the majority of voters DON'T think he hates the country or is a closet muslim or socialist or whatever else they come up with.

The problem is that the minority who hate him with a passion, for whatever reason, is just that.....the minority. They just happen to be more vocal, because it feels good to put a face on their anger. Some politicians and talking heads appealed to their baser instincts and used a lot of newspeak and folks ate it up. He's definitely not near perfect, but that guy the repubs put out there never had a chance...maybe two or three decades ago.


PS - I think all politicians are puppets and I don't support any of them. I'm not left-right-con-or lib, so keep your petty labels. I am thinking the PTB wanted Bama to stay in office to stoke the fires of the vocal minority and their implausable calls for revolution to help their agenda to take even more rights away.



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 08:03 AM
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edit on 7-11-2012 by intelligenthoodlum33 because: double post



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 08:05 AM
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Originally posted by PaperbackWriter
I live in the south. There is racism and reverse racism everywhere.
There are people who won't vote for Obama because he is "black".


That's the way it is in Texas. Though, for the most part is seems to be the older generations that have trouble with his race. I guess they reflect the times they grew up in.



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 11:51 AM
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As a Christain ol Creflo "BIG" Dollars is a fraud, the church he represents is his cash cow. Tell him to sell his G5 jet and donate the cash and get back to what the Bible teaches, power ultimately corrupts, cash always corrupts.



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 05:01 PM
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I posted a thread similar to this one this morning in response to some people saying some really distasteful things about Obama.

I am a republican and voted for Romney but I was annoyed with the fact that some people can't see past skin color.

The feedback I received was very negative and one poster claimed I was only trying to figure out why Romney didn't win via the makeup of the people that voted Obama for another 4 years.
It was ridiculous.



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 09:17 PM
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What truth? You speak as if black people want to be in the ghetto. I'd expect more from an ATS member.



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 10:08 PM
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Your story reminds me of this video:




posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 10:13 PM
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Yes, people are racist.

Prior to Romney, evangelicals would have denied that Mormonism believes in the same Christ as Christians.

With Romney, that was overlooked in order to root Obama out of his position.

I can only think of one thing that would drive someone to ignore their core theology.

50 million people traded Jesus for a chance to get the black guy out of office and to install a rich white guy.

Hmmm....



posted on Nov, 8 2012 @ 03:14 AM
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Originally posted by John_Rodger_Cornman
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What race he is, is pointless. They are puppets. Pure and simple.

Hey why not vote for Hulk Hogan/Steve Austin while where at it? They can do something about the deficit.
Please refer to the post that I responded to, and that would explain my reply.



posted on Nov, 8 2012 @ 09:51 AM
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Originally posted by Diggz
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What truth? You speak as if black people want to be in the ghetto. I'd expect more from an ATS member.


The people that live in the "ghetto" obviously don't care about much, if they did they'd clean up all the trash from their yards, for starters. That doesn't cost any money.



posted on Nov, 8 2012 @ 09:56 AM
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All one has to do is refer to the electoral map to deduce that the war ended in 1865, but the mindset and ideals remain very much intact.

Sorry, Mississippi & Alabama. You're never going to get rid of minorities. You will always have to see them on your way to cash your Government assistance.


 
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posted on Nov, 9 2012 @ 12:15 AM
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FB is a machine that harvests acceptance. Especially for females, who are more social and seemingly more prone to social remediation through FB (guys do it in other ways, but are no less dramatic on the whole).

You see it a lot, from both genders. The picture posted, where they are trying to look their absolute best but with a stupid facial expression and the caption, "Im so ugly". It is acceptance bait.

Same with the pictures and comments about race. There are people who will post positively about that, i bet. Those are the people she wants acceptance from.

And if no one shows acceptance, she may just be a little off kilter.



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