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2012 Voting Machine Altering Votes: Pennsylvania

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posted on Nov, 6 2012 @ 11:23 PM
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Electrical voting?? can it be made easy or easy to jinx scores like that? Piece of PAPER, pencil, draw your number on the card, fold it, take it to the dude and get it stamped, drop into a locked box. Thats how its done properly.




posted on Nov, 6 2012 @ 11:43 PM
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Please. Is anyone here really naive enough to believe that rigging a voting machine so that it would be seen obviously by the voter, would be the method used by actual fraudsters? Is this not a site that revels in exposing disinfo? That's practically a commercial for "It's the Republicans not us!".

Real electronic voter fraud would be at the level of counting them and reporting them. Not showing a voter that their vote got screwed up.



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 12:27 AM
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posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 01:42 AM
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So why do you people feel you Shouldnt have to show ID?

What can possibly be wrong with that, if you aren't attempting to commit voter fraud??

Sounds shady.



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 01:46 AM
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Apparently Obama had more voting machines that were bought off, just better at not getting caught?!
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posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 01:53 AM
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More voting machines rigged, more poll workers paid off, more posters and clothing supporting him ILLEGALLY at polling places, more vote buying, more intimidation, more threats of violence, more actual violence.....

Hence, a "win". He doesn't even have to worry about getting caught, because we don't have a real Justice Department anymore, and Congress is full of cowards. Otherwise, he would have been impeached for bypassing Congress to go to war in Libya.



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 02:08 AM
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to add a personal note on this - the vote switching happened to my friend's mom in San Mateo, CA as well. She was a little frantic and was asking on facebook who she could tell.



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 02:52 AM
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Some gal on Coast-to-Coast w/ Noory just claimed she had hard proof of Romney votes switching to Obama in NV and OH, and Oama votes going to Romney in PA. (heard it a few minutes ago circa 3:45ish AM EST) For the record I'm a Libertarian

They're both NWO anyway but it does give pause for thought
edit on 7-11-2012 by HabiruThorstein because: added note about timing
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posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 03:18 AM
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Originally posted by BlueAjah
I think that these things may pop up as people make an effort to invalidate the results.
I especially believe this from someone voting for Obama, because they know he is going to lose.

Maybe his finger was wet, or something else, which would cause a touch-screen to not work right (I am pretty sure). You can cause a machine to not work like that, if you wanted to cause controversy to invalidate election results.

If you have trouble with a voting machine, all you have to do is tell the workers, and they must let you use another machine.


Did you hear he won?


This is why I never count the eggs until the basket is safe at home!



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 04:45 AM
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Originally posted by jeantherapy

Originally posted by kingofmd
It is a glitch in the touch screen. It happens to my iPad from time to time. Sorry, there is no conspiracy


What about if multiple people are aware the machine is faulty and leave it in place? Is conspiracy enough for you? Furthermore, there is insufficient evidence in the video to make a determination about the source of the glitch,(or programmed routine) so perhaps you should reserve your judgement, since you sounded so certain.


Obama won the state, either it was the lousiest conspiracy attempt by the Romney camp, or it was indeed just a glitch. Not everything is a conspiracy.



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 06:28 AM
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Given the result, they obviously didn't rig enough of 'em...



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 06:42 AM
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first you assume " they " [ being the republicans ] rigged the machines - in which case i ask again - why do it in a way that lets the victim know ?

second - has the possibility occured to you that the democrats may have perpetrated an election fraud - in order to win ?



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 08:46 AM
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I think anon chose our president for us.
They said they would do some hacking.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
Then they release this video.
I guess it's just satire though.



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 09:49 AM
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Originally posted by thePharaoh
so if it was calibration....then the touch of the finger will be off set...at a consistant distance...every time right!


Yup.


Originally posted by thePharaoh
now...if i touch the top-right....it clicks romney
if i touch the bottom left....it clicks romney


And where are you getting this from? The video didn't show that happening. It just showed some idiot pressing two spots on the screen before turning the very short clip off.

in that case...it wouldnt be claibration would it....


Originally posted by thePharaoh
doesnt matter.... obamas won pennsylvania anyway


See? Hardly voter fraud. Just idiots who don't know how technology works (or in this case, doesn't work).



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 10:06 AM
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Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes
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More voting machines rigged, more poll workers paid off, more posters and clothing supporting him ILLEGALLY at polling places, more vote buying, more intimidation, more threats of violence, more actual violence.....

Hence, a "win". He doesn't even have to worry about getting caught, because we don't have a real Justice Department anymore, and Congress is full of cowards. Otherwise, he would have been impeached for bypassing Congress to go to war in Libya.


You pulled that all out of your ass with no proof behind your words. Get outta here.



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 10:24 AM
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Originally posted by Mikeyy
So why do you people feel you Shouldnt have to show ID?

What can possibly be wrong with that, if you aren't attempting to commit voter fraud??

Sounds shady.


Such poor reasoning.

1) The Constitution doesn't require it. That's #1.
2) Here in PA, one of the state GOP reps said blatantly that voter ID in PA would ensure that Romney won PA. This isn't about voter fraud. It's about the disenfranchisement of an entire block of citizens, attempting to deny them the right to vote.
3) Our governor tried to delay the lawsuit until October so that people wouldn't have time to get the proper ID before the voter registration deadline, which was October 9.

So now, who's being shady again?



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 10:29 AM
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The same thing happened here, but it was altering to to vote Obama instead of Romney.



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 02:52 PM
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Originally posted by Indigo5
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Just found this..



October 26, 2012 -- as the Presidential campaign winds on, reports have surfaced that members of candidate Mitt Romney's family, through their investment firms, hold ownership in America's third-largest voting machine company, Hart / Intercivic. Machines from this company are used in elections in many key swing states including Ohio and Pennsylvania.

www.votepa.us...

See my previous post from Forbes...Can't make this stuff up...Hart Intercivic provides the machines for PA...the machine in the video...Hart Intercivic was the 11th largest donor to the Romney Campaign...and members of it's Board of Directors were sitting at that dinner table in Boca Raton when Romney made his famous "47 percent" comments

Sidenote: Touch-screen voting machines are similiar in hardware and software to VLTs...Video Lottery Terminals or Casino Gaming Devices, the same engineers do both. The point is that it is just a line or two of burried code needed to sway an election, just like Gaming touch-screens are engineered to payout only Xth percentage of the time. The voting machines can operate perfectly normally for 99% of voters and rig the vote only the 1% percent of the time randomly...spread that over several machines and you win a district, county...state. It's a stats game.
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This is quite interesting in my opinion. All of this is really, although I feel that the problem in the video of not being able to select Obama correctly is nothing more than a systems problem. And I really dislike Romney, so it would be easy for anyone to throw a tantrum about fraud, which still could be the case...I just doubt it.

Anyway, what I am wondering is if the post I quoted above has anything to do with why Romney did not release his tax returns...At first I thought that it was possible that he did not want the public to know how much money he made, which is still the likely reason. Then I thought about how Mormons tithe to their church, and I figured that he was not giving the full amount of his income to his church, thus he did not want to divulge that information. Now it seems like he may not have wanted to divulge income from a company that was linked, in a huge way, to the voting machines in various locations.

Actually, all 3 of these reasons probably made withholding these documents a no-brainer. It would have absolutely ruined any chance he had of winning this election, which as we now know, was not very big. I underestimated, like he did, the bulk of the Latino vote, which will likely increase a fair amount by the next election. Thus I foresee the democrats holding the presidency for a long time to come. This will also eventually spill over into both the House and the Senate, and eventually the era of breaks and incentives for big-businesses will decrease dramatically. IF we can make it until then. IMO we need democrats in both houses, as this is the only way we are going to get the government to cut these trillions of dollars we are spending on our military overseas. But it seems that all of the businessmen who are getting richer from the "rebuilding" of locations overseas are republicans, thus there is GOP support for these actions over there, under the guise of "freedom and democracy." Ya right.



posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 05:26 PM
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Maybe someone could take this and make a new thread out of the following if it has not already been done:

Article claiming Karl Rove and Romney's operatives double-crossed him and were complicit from the inside in order to bank on a 2016 Jeb Bush election. Can't tell how much truth is in it, but it is food for thought.

Junk Romney - Rove and Jeb complicit in 2016 election plot

Another report about low voter turnout which is completely at odds with all the previously projected models. It also mentions that DC insiders are trying to determine how Obama's operatives could have managed to steal the election on such a massive scale required to do so. They also come to the initial conclusion that help from the Republican side would have been necessary.

Ulsterman report election low turnout stolen election etc
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posted on Nov, 7 2012 @ 06:47 PM
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If it is really screwed up the spot needed to be pressed can be off the screen where it is not possible to press.

To calibrate a touch screen, the machine is put in a calibration mode, targets are presented and the operator needs to press with a pointy object EXACTLY where the target is.

If they use a finger tip instead of a stylus, or are not careful where they press, the result could be buttons located off the screen where there is no screen.





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