Just A Theory About Gold....., page 1


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Topic started on 6-11-2012 @ 05:49 AM by Todzer
All these companies that are snapping up gold around the world are actually a front for the Federal Reserve, it would go along with the theory that the Fed is empty and that they are panicking and they are trying to snap all the gold up to fill it before anyone notices, only recently Germany has demanded to see its gold

www.businessinsider.com...

Now I cannot find anywhere if they did or did not show them yet, what would it mean for America if it is actually empty? If they have not shown the gold to Germany yet, why haven't they? As I said this is just a theory, I have no proof. Would love to hear peoples thoughts on this.

Todzer

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reply posted on 6-11-2012 @ 06:31 AM by andy06shake
reply to post by muzzleflash



Gold can be used as a superconductor and also its a good conductor at room temperature. Its used extensivly in the production of all modern electronic and electrical equipment. My point is that the demand for the stuff is only going to get bigger. So i would not mind being left with the majority share. Just pointing out that i cant see how one could lose money on the stuff.

Then again im no economic genius.
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reply posted on 6-11-2012 @ 06:58 AM by Todzer
reply to post by muzzleflash



But why would you want to give up gold ( a precious metal) for a piece of paper that could turn out to be worthless at any time now, sorry for the late reply my internet was down


reply posted on 6-11-2012 @ 07:14 AM by Todzer
reply to post by spy66



So after they told you that where does it leave you? Can you not get it at all?


reply posted on 6-11-2012 @ 07:16 AM by MDDoxs
reply to post by muzzleflash



I agree with your position on this topic. The Diamond market comes to mind and the strangle hold by the DeBeers company.

I would suggest that by buying up all the gold stock sitting around in jewelry boxes, the inflated price of gold will remain strong and regulated by influencing parties.

Though the connection in the OP remains valid. If the US is sitting on gold bar stock that has been compromised by tungsten rod fillers, then they would most definitely need a cheap way to replenish to the appropriate values.
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reply posted on 6-11-2012 @ 07:33 AM by Todzer
reply to post by MDDoxs



That's what I was getting at alright but as I said it's just a theory. Although not that crazy of a theory


reply posted on 6-11-2012 @ 07:34 AM by muzzleflash
reply to post by spy66



Sell it now, I'm telling you.

Soon your paper fools gold could end with very little value.

Hey at least iron pyrite. is worth something since you can actually hold it.


reply posted on 6-11-2012 @ 07:40 AM by muzzleflash
reply to post by andy06shake



Yes gold is important in high tech, like space flight or making computers.

But that simply doesn't account for its skyrocketing value.

Instead it is through entirely frivolous use where the real inflation occurs. Jewelry, hoarding for end times, etc etc

If we removed all of the hoarding demands, the leftover high tech demands would be miniscule in comparison.

Also the mining industry keeps production low purposely to keep a false low supply and false high value.



reply posted on 6-11-2012 @ 07:41 AM by spy66
Originally posted by Todzer
reply to
post by spy66



So after they told you that where does it leave you? Can you not get it at all?


No, i cant get my gold because its no how the trade is conducted. I have only bought a value of gold that i can use to trade in other commodities or money. I don't really own the gold physically, I only own the value of the amount of gold i bought at the time i purchased the gold.

When people buy gold to day. They don't really buy the gold in it self physically. They buy the value of gold at the time of purchase. You can trade your value of gold at a different value if the market of gold changes.
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reply posted on 6-11-2012 @ 07:49 AM by Todzer
reply to post by spy66



So basically just a piece of paper that states you have gold somewhere to the value of what you bought, whether it is actually there or not you don't know, sounds like a scam to me, as a previous poster said about the tungsten fillers that have flooded the market, you can't really know for certain whether they actually have it or not and if they turn out to be doing some shady business and get caught that leaves you up # creek without a paddle.


reply posted on 6-11-2012 @ 07:54 AM by rickymouse
Why is our government even buying any gold at all when it is so high priced. Ever wonder why the national debt is growing? What stupidity, I bet they are spending tons of money on gold to fill up their stolen reserves....Actually they weren't stolen, they were swindled away by the corruption that existed in our government before. Our government will cover this up because it makes them look bad, instead they just make us pay for it. The corporations that did this are gone and the execs are protected by existing laws that protect them. Bankruptsy does not protect the little guy as much as the big guy. I know people who walked away from a business rich and the corporation went bankrupt. I'm all for making corporations and patents illegal in some cases myself, they both corrupt society.

I like private businesses and I believe patents have their place but there is a lot of good technology hidden by our present system. If a corporation buys a patent and doesn't start to produce it in a few years, than the patent should be voided. I also am against the current patent system of medications, it shouldn't cost a quarter million to patent a medicine and another quarter million to have lawyers draft these patents. Seems like the legal system is bringing prices up in this country. These patents costs are just another way of collecting money in leau of taxes by the government as are fines of pharma companies. Hidden taxes are causing a lot of problems in this country and these hidden taxes bring up costs more than actually raising our income tax rate. I remember when it didn't cost anything to get a government service, now, everything we do has a pricetag. We can't see the taxation but it is still there in the price of everything we do or buy.


reply posted on 6-11-2012 @ 08:00 AM by muzzleflash
reply to post by Todzer



You don't want paper or credit either.

There are countless good avenues for investment though.

Commodities that are more stable and less risky.
Historic artifacts or fine art, etc etc

I was reading about the mega billion $ fine art auctions inNYC this week, and these investment metrics firms were claiming fine art had a 8% Plus compound return rate, quarterly.
That's a very good investment return, amazing even.

The article is up on Reuters since yesterday go check it out.


reply posted on 6-11-2012 @ 08:05 AM by spy66
Originally posted by Todzer
reply to
post by spy66



So basically just a piece of paper that states you have gold somewhere to the value of what you bought, whether it is actually there or not you don't know, sounds like a scam to me, as a previous poster said about the tungsten fillers that have flooded the market, you can't really know for certain whether they actually have it or not and if they turn out to be doing some shady business and get caught that leaves you up # creek without a paddle.


Yes. The gold value i have bought is not really worth the paper it is written on. The value of gold is market controlled. And i have no control with the market. All i can do is buy or sell what the market provides.

My piece of paper with gold value is much like a paper printed dollar. They are not really worth the paper it is printed on unless the market allows it to be a value of trade.


reply posted on 6-11-2012 @ 08:06 AM by muzzleflash
reply to post by rickymouse



Absolutely correct, good post.

After extensive reflection, inquisition, and research, I have come to the obvious conclusion that if we add up all of these ' hidden taxes ' , which abound, we would discover the true real tax rate to be around 90 to 98% of the average persons wealth generation.


reply posted on 6-11-2012 @ 08:09 AM by muzzleflash
reply to post by spy66



Except that dollars are considered legal tender for all debts public and private.

People at the store don't accept gold certificates...

Sell that junk paper security now because it isn't you who its securing!


reply posted on 6-11-2012 @ 08:24 AM by Todzer
reply to post by muzzleflash



Agree with this 100%, get rid of them before you get screwed out of the "money" that you paid, I use the word money loosely here because the notion that a piece of paper is worth anything is laughable, it is all an illusion when you think about it, if an asteroid hit tomorrow and you were one of the few left how far do you think that trading paper money for food and the likes would get you?
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