Sorry

DP....

They have sussed the following, brand new analysis which ties together apparent conflicting cause and effects (nectar of the skeptics !)

1. A change in the tilt of the earths axis causes the norther hemisphere to warm up. Because of the tilt (seasons etc) the south warms up slower (conflict1)
2. The warming causes the ice sheets in the north to melt , but the south doesn't, the fresh water enters the northern atlantic.
3. All the fresh water alters the flow of ocean currents and causes the climate to switch with the north becoming colder (dryas period) and the southern hemisphere rapidly warms (conflict2)
4. The rapid rise in southern temperatures causes a release in CO2 which then result in a warming of the whole planet (conflict3)

They know this from sea sediment samples, ice core samples etc

FYI humans have released CO2 to cause step 1 which we know from the measurement of c12/c14 ratios.

Originally posted by PlanetXisHERE

You need to stop clinging to the elites brainwashing/programming that no advanced humanoid civilizations existed much before 12,000 years ago.

You need to stop clinging to what the fringe brainwashing tells you to believe - that everything we know is wrong and that they, and they alone know what happened - even without evidence, lol

All you have to do is go through some of these articles and you will learn we have been lied to.

Correct but the right article will show that the fringe is making up lots of stuff, open your mind to other information besides what you being told to read by the fringe

Why no outcry from archeologists? Well, guess who provides their funding, and like most they care about what their peers think, and would much rather be part of a consensus than a black sheep.

Incorrect you are simply repeating propaganda from the fringe, you obviously don't know how funding occurs. If what you were told to believe is correct nothing should change, it changes daily. Plus you seem to think there is a massive organization capable of controlling every archaeologist in every country?

LOL

Okay would you like me to list all the scientists and archaeologists who have found things that changed our view of history....why is that allowed? I always find that fringe beleivers think that not a single archaeologist anywhere has any honor - during the cold war people who believed in communism stole secrets and often died for this, free world people did the same, they were willing to give their lives - but not a single archy is and all that would happen to them is their peers would give them the stink eye?

So the data points to about 12k years ago - wasn't their stuff about the star patterns (axis wobble) on the history channel a few years back? The Egypt pyramids, angkor wat, and others all pointing to the axis alignment of that time period?

Maybe the ancients put in place a warning of some sort (as mentioned in the history channel babble) for us to see?

But good news - the half-way alignment point is Dec 21 2012 - what could go wrong right? Nothing I'd imagine - the ancients only put in place a celestial marker to warn us and all for no reason whatsoever...

Good post OP - S&F.

Couple of points on this. The Laurentide ice sheet was vast - it covered a huge chunk of North America. When it melted, as land ice, it undoubtedly did raise sea levels.

Also look at the date it occurred. This falls into the correct time frame for various phases of freshwater pulse events in various locations around the world. No volcanoes or comets were necessary as the previous Ice Age had ended thousands of years before. The research actually indicates that the most probable cause for this amount of water pouring into the Atlantic is that the ice dam finally broke (again, the same as happened at other locations around the world).

The Barents Sea Region, for example, had at least 3 pulse events spread over 7'000 years - there was an awful lot of ice to melt! That time period allows for many civilizations to rise and fall and bear in mind this happened all over the planet.

Originally posted by Hanslune

What you'd want to pursue is where did the Sumerian come from?

edit on 6/11/12 by Hanslune because: (no reason given)

Black Sea Region for me. Aside from the sea levels rises, i have read that it would have been a haven region for wildlife, natural resources, etc, allowing farming to grow and cities to rise. All the early sites in Anatolia are not so far from this region - it would have been the natural migration region to escape the pesky melting ice sheets coming down from Russia and Ukraine.

Now i just need to find the evidence and gain worldwide archeological mythical status! Mind you, that would then leave me with the question of where did the Black Sea people come from.......