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Originally posted by AceWombat04
Is it not a myth anyway that people can stay on welfare "forever?" Isn't there a limit that can vary from state to state, but is typically five years lifetime total? SSI is another matter, but that's for disabled people. It's true that there are people who cheat the system and benefit unduly, but outside of SSI isn't welfare limited?
Peace.
reply to post by soulshn
But where is that 28% really going? It is not going to the poor of this country, it is going to drop bombs on people who have never done a thing to harm anyone in this country. It is going to set up puppet governments so Haliburton can continue to win billion dollar no bid contracts and to ensure that Exxon and BP can have access to oil reserves that they would otherwise not be able to touch.
Originally posted by NavyDoc
Originally posted by AceWombat04
Is it not a myth anyway that people can stay on welfare "forever?" Isn't there a limit that can vary from state to state, but is typically five years lifetime total? SSI is another matter, but that's for disabled people. It's true that there are people who cheat the system and benefit unduly, but outside of SSI isn't welfare limited?
Peace.
Lifetime totals do not count if you have a minor child, nor do they count for children until they reach majority.
Originally posted by 11235813213455
The only way most the the poor stop bring poor is if they face the hard truths of why they are poor. If they do an HONEST review of the decisions they made in their life leading up to their current financial situation 99% of the time they come to 2 realizations.
1) The decisions they made for themselves have led to their current status.
2) As long as they keep making these same kinds of decisions they will be no better off in the future.
Of course their are exceptions to the stated (mental and physical disabilities, those with sickness, those that have been injured). One would expect them to be poor. Able bodied correct thinking people should not and that's most the poor. And dont give me any blow-back about the working poor. If you are 40 and still barley making over minimum wage you've made some bad decisions or are currently caught up in a viscous cycle of bad decisions.
edit on 5-11-2012 by 11235813213455 because: (no reason given)
You sir, are typical of the clueless right wing too afraid to admit being wrong by looking in the direction of the thieving rich who are the real reason why people are poor.
reply to post by Red Cloak
Bottom line, people that blame the poor for the problems today are sociopaths and psychopaths. The problem is that a very large portion of the population are sociopaths and psychopaths.
Originally posted by SucksMulder
Without the poor there is no rich.
This is the tragic constant of capitalism.
Originally posted by Red Cloak
People that make these claims about how half the people pay no taxes, people are poor because they are lazy, people without a job simply refuse to work, etc. are evil, greedy, ignorant, retarded, and are a cancer upon society.
They don't actually need the TV or talk radio to tell it to them, since they already believe it because they are so greedy and so petty. And of course the vast majority of the people that say these things were either born with a silver spoon or they have lived their whole life being funded by the government, or both. Especially the rich people that say these things, as almost all of them are bankrolled by corporate fascism.
Bottom line, people that blame the poor for the problems today are sociopaths and psychopaths. The problem is that a very large portion of the population are sociopaths and psychopaths.edit on 6-11-2012 by Red Cloak because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by knowledgedesired
I grew up having to wear one pair of shoes all year even when they had holes in them and were falling apart.
I grew up wearing my brothers old hand me down clothes from the previous year while kids in school made fun of me.
I grew up in a single wide trailer with a hot water heater that lasted long enough for one person to take 3/4 of a shower.
I grew up wearing wet clothes to school if it rained and got one of my 3 pair of pants wet that would not dry on a rainy day.
I grew up dirt ass poor and fought my way to the top of a sucessful career.
I started making more money than my mother when I was 19 years old and double by time I was 23.
My mother worked her tail off raising me and my two brothers and never collected welfare or food stamps even when we were eating bologna sammichs and vegtable soup 3-4 times a week or going to someone elses house.
The problem is now people can still work their butts off and still not be able to make the simplist ends meet like food, water, shelter and clothing.
The system has failed us all and most of you are TOO DUMB to notice what is going on because your to busy fighting amoungst yourselves to prove that your point of view is right whether you think everyone is lazy or born with a golden spoon in your mouth.
UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL -
Say that to yourself over and over until it actually sinks in.
Or you could just continue to argue back and forth saying the same thing but a little different depending on where you are in the game at the time this is written.edit on 6-11-2012 by knowledgedesired because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by guitarplayer
Originally posted by solidguy
The poor are not the enemy.
The enemy is the government that enables them, and makes it comfortable to be poor.
Obamaphones, food stamps, welfare, earned income tax credits, etc...are all actions of our government to keep the poor comfortable. When the poor are comfortable, what gives them any incentive to improve their lot?
Take a test and all the people with the signs will work for food. Take them up on it and see how many will actually work for food.
I have done just that, and EVERYONE I asked had an excuse NOT to work. One said he couldn't go with me because he was waiting for a friend, another said he had to be somewhere in an hour so he couldn't work. The one guy, who was HONEST, said the "I will work for money" sign got him more money than other signs he displayed to the public. For his honesty, I gave him $20.00.
Take a test and all the people with the signs will work for food. Take them up on it and see how many will actually work for food.