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Originally posted by flexy123
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in healthy economy, like Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Nederlands, Switzerland, in which the role of the state is as a firm regulator of the economy with solid social security systems and well established proportional taxation to the capital, and moreover strict regulation of the financial markets.
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Will never happen as long as Americans associate this with "communism" and "socialism" in the negative sense. They rather go down with flowing flags, into total disaster...as opposed to let the government "regulate" things such as in those EU countries. The key here is that if capitalism in its pure form is allowed to work freely, it will NOT benefit anyone BUT a very tiny minority of the rich, it NEEDS some sort of regulations..and a good example where it works beautifully are those countries you listed.
But as long as there are people who believe this will mean "communism" (out of total ignorance) this won't work.
Originally posted by marg6043
We are already into the great Depression that started in 2008,
Jonah 3:3 NIV Jonah obeyed the word of the LORD and went to Nineveh. Now Nineveh was a very important city--a visit required three days. On the first day, Jonah started into the city.
He proclaimed: "Forty more days and Nineveh will be overturned."
The Ninevites believed God. They declared a fast, and all of them, from the greatest to the least, put on sackcloth.
When the news reached the king of Nineveh, he rose from his throne, took off his royal robes, covered himself with sackcloth and sat down in the dust.
Then he issued a proclamation in Nineveh: "By the decree of the king and his nobles: Do not let any man or beast, herd or flock, taste anything; do not let them eat or drink. But let man and beast be covered with sackcloth. Let everyone call urgently on God. Let them give up their evil ways and their violence.
Who knows? God may yet relent and with compassion turn from his fierce anger so that we will not perish.
When God saw what they did and how they turned from their evil ways, he had compassion and did not bring upon them the destruction he had threatened.
Originally posted by The angel of light
reply to post by MsAphrodite
The Peace of God to all that belong to the light,
Here is another very interesting short reply, that has caught my attention.
Dear Aphrodite, I believe you are missing the point here, this is not necessarily the future, but a possible future if America commit the mistake to vote following the seductive power of a man that is in his own way also a false prophet, because he is predicting a false future he knows perfectly only exist in fantasy.
Mitt Romney is until this precise night promising to bring all together to this country the paradise, the heaven, the nirvana and the Valhalla, something we all know perfectly that is impossible, in the same way the people that deceived by Madoff might knew that they were going directly to a trap.
Sometimes there are moments in which God allow us to see with clarity a future, but gives us also the opportunity to decide, like when Jonah was sent to Nineveh to prevent its people that they were going to be destroyed, but at the end it didn't happen, since the entire city repented of their sins.
Here is the principal part of that story:
Jonah 3:3 NIV Jonah obeyed the word of the LORD and went to Nineveh. Now Nineveh was a very important city--a visit required three days. On the first day, Jonah started into the city.
He proclaimed: "Forty more days and Nineveh will be overturned."
The Ninevites believed God. They declared a fast, and all of them, from the greatest to the least, put on sackcloth.
When the news reached the king of Nineveh, he rose from his throne, took off his royal robes, covered himself with sackcloth and sat down in the dust.
Then he issued a proclamation in Nineveh: "By the decree of the king and his nobles: Do not let any man or beast, herd or flock, taste anything; do not let them eat or drink. But let man and beast be covered with sackcloth. Let everyone call urgently on God. Let them give up their evil ways and their violence.
Who knows? God may yet relent and with compassion turn from his fierce anger so that we will not perish.
When God saw what they did and how they turned from their evil ways, he had compassion and did not bring upon them the destruction he had threatened.
No, MsAphrodite, none false prophet at all can come here and prevents on time the people to try to save their necks, to move back when they are planning to walk into the abyss, and none has done that for long six years in this forum, as well as prophecies & predictions, to see dozens of his forecasts accomplished, as it is my case.
I don't like the title of prophet, I prefer just one of messenger, is that the reason for which I chose to be called Angel.
However, certainly there are false prophets, and one very important example, perhaps the best one in America is possibly Joseph Smith, the dowser that changed his profession of gold digger, to write again entirely the Bible, what is a capital sin, changing not only facts, but places and people mentioned on it, but that was not all, he claimed that it was by the will of God and who gave him the keys of the kingdom of God or of the heaven, the ones of course are only in the hands of St Peter, when he was in this world, and in the ones of our father Abraham in the other side, respectively.
Tomorrow a follower of that false Prophet, Mitt Romney, will try to arrive to the most powerful office of this country, supported in his complete faith in what he learnt in his congregation and planning to take oath on January 20th not on the Bible but on the Heretic Book of Mormon.
Thanks for your reply,
The Angel of Lightness .