What Happened to the 50,000 Homeless in NYC During Hurricane Sandy?, page

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I keep wondering, did they seek shelter in a safe location, how many mentally ill are homeless and not capable of even thinking about seeking shelter?

Everyday I wonder about the homeless, but I haven't heard anything.
www.coalitionforthehomeless.org...

In New York City...
• Each night more than 50,000 people -- including more than 20,000 children -- experience homelessness.
• Currently 46,600 homeless men, women, and children bed down each night in the NYC municipal shelter system.
• Additionally, more than 5,000 homeless adults and children sleep each night in other public and private shelters, and thousands more sleep rough on the streets or in other public spaces.
• During the course of each year, more than 110,000 different homeless New Yorkers, including more than 40,000 children, sleep at least one night in the municipal shelter system.
• The number of homeless New Yorkers in shelters has risen by more than half over the past decade.

I'll tell you what happened to them AFTER Sandy .. none of them got any of the supplies from the cancelled NYC Marathon. Thread here This will seriously make you .... I don't know where all this supposed 'good job' is that Bloomberg and Obama and Christie are slapping each other on the backs for. UGH!

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civil liberty concerns aside, hopefully, i think the homeless would fare better because they are already homeless and much wiser to survival skills in the city. at least those who are of good health and sound of mind.

the rest i worry about...

Originally posted by LittleBlackEagle
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civil liberty concerns aside, hopefully, i think the homeless would fare better because they are already homeless and much wiser to survival skills in the city. at least those who are of good health and sound of mind.

the rest i worry about...

You are right, some would make the conscious decision to ingnore warnings or to get help for a variety of reasons--be they in hiding, resent authority, on the lam for criminal activity, lack trust in the system, and believe they can do a better job surviving on their own.

OTOH, many people are homeless because of poor decision making skills that would mean lack of judgement where a disaster was concerned.

Other than making services available and spreading the information about such services as widely as practicable, I don't really see a solution to save these people without resorting to some sort of draconian measure.

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Like the camps of the migrant workers caught in hurricane Andrew in 92 the homeless won't be counted. City employees will be under gag orders to remain silent while government freezer trucks load the corpses and haul them off for incineration.

NO!?

Sadly that crossed my mind, they wont be counted will they?

Originally posted by FlyersFan
I'll tell you what happened to them AFTER Sandy .. none of them got any of the supplies from the cancelled NYC Marathon. Thread here This will seriously make you .... I don't know where all this supposed 'good job' is that Bloomberg and Obama and Christie are slapping each other on the backs for. UGH!

Yea, I read about that.

Nowhere to run: Homeless battle elements as Superstorm Sandy hits

Whilst those efforts have been lauded, reports online suggest that many homeless were left on the streets, bunked in doorways, as the storm approached on Monday.
rt.com...
With no promise of assistance or a bed, New York’s homeless community did whatever they could to survive the storm. For one person, that meant traveling to Newark Liberty International Airport.

Speaking to New Jersey News from a covered entrance to Terminal B, 60-year-old Dorothy Howe said, “This is the safest place a homeless person could be right now.”

Howe took a bus from downtown Newark to the airport on Sunday afternoon, before New Jersey Transit halted all bus, train, and light rail services.

“I didn’t know where to go,” she said.

article by freelance journalist, Julia Reinhart, the system has become a maze of complicated rules which make many of the city’s most needy ineligible for a bed.

Dear lord

Originally posted by LittleBlackEagle
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civil liberty concerns aside, hopefully, i think the homeless would fare better because they are already homeless and much wiser to survival skills in the city. at least those who are of good health and sound of mind.

the rest i worry about...

I worried about those that made their homes underground, would they be suspecting such a flood of the subway system?

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I don't really see a solution to save these people without resorting to some sort of draconian measure.

Did you get to hear the poem at the end of the video I posted?

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I can attest to this.
Galveston Island has a very large homeless population...or had one, before Ike hit in 2008.

There were way more black body bags down there than what was accounted for and reported to the public, per the EMT and paramedics who worked the aftermath.

I had to go to the courthouse on the Island about 3 months after Ike, and it still looked like a nuclear bomb had gone off.

Originally posted by stupid girl
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I had to go to the courthouse on the Island about 3 months after Ike, and it still looked like a nuclear bomb had gone off.

Greetings:

We can attest to this, as we were First Responders based in Sulphur, LA, and opened main roads to Beaumont 'on the way to work' in the Beaumont area on a daily basis - Orange, Lumberton, Vidor, Nederland, etc., and were first-in to Sabine Pass escorting LEO's to the FD.

Where we adopted 'Sammy' Sabine...





The entire coast looked like a nuclear bomb went off. The community of Gilchrist was obliterated.

All of High Island and miles inland was inundated. We were picking up boats 10 miles inland in fields!

We eventually moved into a house in Lumberton and spent a delightful six months in your truly hospitable Texas.

Thanks for the memories.

Peace Love Light
tfw
Liberty & Equality or Revolution

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Your dogs picture made me and my wife laugh. He looks like a character.

I have heard that a lot of the "moles" were expected to be found drowned in the tunnels.

Regardless, if what asktheanimals is true....that is horrendous and grim. Having a problem is not an issue. Failing to acknowledge and address it is reprehensible.

One of them escaped the disaster and now is pursuing his career as a music artist..... see

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What a cutie!

Well, I'm originally from Louisiana so I basically just moved from one hurricane zone to another, here on the TX Gulf Coast.
I've ridden-out hurricanes, I've evacuated for hurricanes, I've partied during hurricanes (LA tradition is to have "hurricane parties" where you drink hurricane cocktails while riding out the storm....yes, we are insane), and I've seen more hurricane aftermath than I care to recount.
Having said all that, the aftermath of Ike was a bit strange to me. I think one of the things that stood out to me the most was the fact that there was nothing green for months afterward. Nothing. No bushes, all grass was dead, even the palm trees were dead. And what wasn't dead was completely bare of foliage, so it looked dead. It was a very strange, macabre landscape for quite a while. Almost Tim Burton-ish.....if that makes any sense at all.

My theory for the difference in the Ike aftermath is that of all the hurricane damage I've seen, none of it included the breadth and scope of saltwater inundation in an overly vegetative area the size of Galveston Island. Most of the saltwater inundation I've seen is marshland or industrial beach head. No one really lives on the "beach" in Louisiana because there really aren't any beaches. The few stretches of coast that we pass off as our "beaches" pretty much look like a prairie that ends in the ocean....lol.
So Ike was really the first time I saw the magnitude of damage that saltwater does to non-brackish vegetation. That's my theory, anyway.

Y'all are awesome for your volunteer work and especially for rescuing little Sammy!

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