Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by EnochWasRight
I couldn't help but repond to this statement...
You are speaking of yourself by the way. We are all cut from the same loaf and to cast judgment on the Lord is to point your finger at your
reflection in the mirror
When i look in the mirror i don't see someone that would kill innocent souls... I would not destroy life...
I am not a destroyer my friend, i seek peace and harmony...
I cast judgement on the OT God because he is the original biblical terrorist... a fraud posing as the true God to people that didn't know any
better... and i have plenty of threads that back up that statement to prove it...
I might also add.... that if i looked in the mirror and saw anything even close to resembling the OT God... i would have mercy on the world and end
my own life.
edit on 5-11-2012 by Akragon because: (no reason given)
You mean the same God that killed the Pagans sacrificing children to Moloch, only to give them renewed life again in another generation? You mean the
same souls that are now alive in a world where billions now live in peace? The same God that took 200 million souls and produced billions of new
souls that adhere to some form of moral code and sentience that shares your values of right and wrong? The same God that transformed barbarism in the
larger world into a form of light shown to them by the Hebrew people and the Torah. That God? The same one that gives us HIS Spirit to use as our
mind as a loan we did not earn? The Father that gives us an inheritance we did not earn ourselves?
You are raising your own sense of moral justice over the God that brought you that sense of moral foundation. This is the very God that allowed this
to be written on your heart from generations of life that came before. Your soul has been refined by that very God in by the trials of free will that
was a gift to you and everyone else. You must be born again and God took you from law to love. The journey to get there required His harsh choices
along the way or we would not arrive at a Holy Consciousness in the end.
You have some imagined fantasy that sentience can be developed in the masses by simply allowing man to be free. If you were God, you would somehow be
able to manage free will apart from law and justice. God protects the law abiding, and not the law breakers. For faith to take hold, the law was
necessary. You claim God was evil for moving masses of people from one generation to the next. Apart from knowing the living conditions of those
generations and the genetic problems caused by the divine beings in Genesis 6, you have no foundation for taking the higher ground. God was working
us toward a new genetic direction and his will can only give or receive. Essentially, you are accusing God of taking as a thief.
Prove it. Bring verses to our attention that demonstrate this and I will show you the foundation for this verse: "You must be born again." God
cannot take anything that he does not then use to give as a higher gift and calling toward truth in the end. Bring the verses and I will then show
you the larger context of what we being demonstrated for those souls later in other generations when God allowed this:
But your dead will live, Lord;
their bodies will rise—
let those who dwell in the dust
wake up and shout for joy—
your dew is like the dew of the morning;
the earth will give birth to her dead.
You are speaking from a foundation that ignores the truth and places your moral insight of a few years of life over God's moral understanding as
ancient of days. God can only give and receive. To say otherwise fulfills this verse:
1 John 1
5 This is the message we have heard from him and declare to you: God is light; in him there is no darkness at all. 6 If we claim to have fellowship
with him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not live out the truth. 7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship
with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin.
8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive
us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word is not in us.
Walking in the light is a process over countless generations. God leads us there and his providence and choices on that path are HIS to make. We use
HIS Spirit, not outs. The choice he makes with that gift are his to make. We are simply using what is given as servants. In the end, we can only
receive an inheritance that is not deserved. Grace is unmerited and gives life from the use of GOD's Spirit to us on loan. Our gift is this Spirit
as our own in the end if we gain the crown and robe that is imperishable.
By taking the moral high ground against God, you risk losing the possibility of what I show you above. Apart from the God you curse, there are no
others that will come to give you the life you do not deserve. There is only one and He is good beyond compare. The one sin that will not be
forgiven blasphemy against the Spirit of God. Until we pass from this baptism, we still have time to repent and engage the purpose for being in the
water. I share this with you hoping you see the error in your thinking before the final judgment comes. If you are not for God, you are against.
38 Therefore, in the present case I advise you: Leave these men alone! Let them go! For if their purpose or activity is of human origin, it will fail.
39 But if it is from God, you will not be able to stop these men; you will only find yourselves fighting against God.”
No matter what our aim in life, Paul was correct in this. God allows men to live and fail. He also moves them toward a higher calling. In the end,
his providence will stand as the will to give and receive. Law stands against those who choose to break it. God is the one they answer to when their
activity is of human will.
edit on 6-11-2012 by EnochWasRight because: (no reason given)