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The USA is not the holy messiah of human rights

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posted on Nov, 4 2012 @ 06:12 PM

1 Mind Control, Child Abuse - Project MKULTRA, Subproject 68 This is the stuff of nightmares. The CIA-ran Project MKULTRA paid Dr. Donald Ewen Cameron for Subproject 68, which would be experiments involving mind-altering substances. The entire goal of the project was to probe examination into methods of influencing and controlling the mind and being able to extract information from resisting minds. So in order to accomplish this, the doctor took patients admitted to his Allen Memorial Institute in Montreal and conducted "therapy" on them. The patients were mostly taken in for issues like bi-polar depression and anxiety disorders. The treatment they received was life-altering and scarring. In the period he was paid for (1957 - 1964) Cameron administered electroconvulsive therapy at 30-40 times the normal power. He would put patients into a drug-induced coma for months on-end and playback tapes of simple statements or repetitive noises over and over again. The victims forgot how to talk, forgot about their parents, and suffered serious amnesia. And all of this was performed on Canadian citizens because the CIA wasn’t willing to risk such operations on Americans. To ensure that the project remained funded, Cameron, in one scheme, took his experiments upon admitted children and in one situation had the child engage in sex with high-ranking government officials and film it. He and other MKULTRA officers would blackmail the officials to ensure more funding.

2 Mustard Gas Tested on Soldiers via Involuntary Gas Chambers As bio-weapon research intensified in the 1940's, officials also began testing its repercussions and defenses on the Army itself. In order to test the effectiveness of various bio-weapons, officials were known to have sprayed mustard gas and other skin-burning, lung-ruining chemicals, like Lewisite, on soldiers without their consent or knowledge of the experiment happening to them. They also tested the effectiveness of gas masks and protective clothing by locking soldiers in a gas chamber and exposing them to mustard gas and lewisite, evoking the gas chamber image of Nazi Germany. EFFECTS OF LEWISITE: Lewisite is a gas that can easily penetrate clothing and even rubber. Upon contact with the skin, the gas immediately causes extreme pain, itching, swelling and even a rash. Large, fluid-filled blisters develop 12 hours after exposure in the form of intensely severe chemical burns. And that's just skin contact with the gas. Inhaling of the gas causes a burning pain in the lungs, sneezing, vomiting, and pulmonary edema. EFFECTS OF MUSTARD GAS: Symptomless until about 24 hours after exposure, Mustard Gas has mutagenic and carcinogenic properties that have killed many subjected to it. Its primary effects include severe burns that turn into yellow-fluid-leaking boils over a period of time. Although treatment is available, Mustard Gas burns heal very, very slowly and are extremely painful. The burns the gas leaves on the skin are sometimes irreparable. It was also rumored that along with the soldiers, patients at VA hospitals were being used as guinea pigs for medical experiments involving bio-warfare chemicals, but that all experiments were changed to be known as "observations" to ward off suspicions.

3 U.S. Grants Immunity to Involuntary-Surgery Monster As head of Japan's infamous Unit 731 (a covert biological and chemical warfare research and development unit of the Imperial Japanese Army during World War II), Dr. Shiro Ishii (head of medicine) carried out violent human experimentation of tens of thousands during the Second Sino-Japenses War and World War II. Ishii was responsible for testing vivisection techniques without any anesthesia on human prisoners. For the uninitiated, vivisection is the act of conducting experimental surgery on living creatures (with central nervousness) and examining their insides for scientific purposes. So basically, he was giving unnecessary surgery to prisoners by opening them all the way up, keeping them alive and not using any anesthetic. For a disturbing video about vivisection, please go here . During these experiments he would also force pregnant women to abort their babies. He also played God by subjecting his prisoners to change in physiological conditions and inducing strokes, heart attacks, frost bite, and hypothermia. Ishii considered these subjects "logs". Following imminent defeat in 1945, Japan blew up the Unity 731 complex and Ishii ordered all the remaining "logs" to be executed. Not soon after, Ishii was arrested. And then, the respected General Douglas McArthur allegedly struck a deal with Ishii. If the U.S. granted Ishii immunity from his crimes, he must exchange all germ warfare data based on human experimentation. So Ishii got away with his crimes because the US became interested in the results of his research. While not directly responsible for these acts, the actions of the American government certainly illustrated it was more than willing to condone human torture for advancements in biological warfare that could kill even more people. Not a surprise, considering its past resume. Ishii remained alive until 1959, performing research into bio-weaponry and probably thinking up more plans to annihilate people in different, Dr. Giggles-esque ways to his dying day.

Not finished have more to post and then will give you my opinion

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posted on Nov, 4 2012 @ 06:13 PM

5 US Infects Guatemalans With STDs In the 1940's, with penicillin as an established cure for syphilis, the US decided to test out its effectiveness on Guatemalan citizens. To do this, they used infected prostitutes and let them loose on unknowing prison inmates, insane asylum patients and soldiers. When spreading the disease through prostitution didn't work as well as they'd hoped, they instead went for the inoculation route. Researchers poured syphilis bacteria onto mens' penises and on their forearms and faces. In some cases, they even inoculated the men through spinal punctures. After all the infections were transmitted, researchers then gave most of the subjects treatment, although as many as 1/3 of them could have been left untreated, even if that was the intention of the study in the first place. On October 1, 2010, Hilary Clinton apologized for the events and new research has gone on to see if anyone affected is still alive and afflicted with syphilis. Since many subjects never got penicillin, its possible and likely that someone spread it to f*ture generations.

6 Secret Human Experiments to Test the Effects of The Atomic Bomb While testing out and trying to harness the power of the atomic bomb, U.S. scientists also secretly tested the bomb's effects on humans. During the Manhattan Project, which gave way to the atomic bomb that destroyed Hiroshima and Nagasaki, U.S. scientists resorted to secret human testing via plutonium injection on 18 unsuspecting, non-consenting patients. This included injecting soldiers with micrograms of plutonium for Project Oak Ridge along with later injecting three patients at a Chicago hospital. Imagine you're an admitted patient, helpless in a hospital bed, assuming that nothing is wrong when the government suddenly appears and puts weapons-grade plutonium in your blood. Out of the 18 patients, who were known only by their code-names and numbers at the time, only 5 lived longer than 20 years after injection. Along with plutonium, researchers also had fun with uranium. At a Massachusetts hospital, between 1946 and 1947, Dr. William Sweet injected 11 patients with uranium. He was funded by the Manhattan Project. And in exchange for the uranium he received from the government, he would keep dead tissue from the body of the people he killed for scientific analysis on the effects of uranium exposure. To the left is a video on the Manhattan Project.

7 Injected Prisoners with Agent Orange To the left is a video of what the effects of Agent Orange can do to children of parents affected, or even exposed, to it. WARNING: video may be disturbing, but is a reality of what Americans used as biological warfare during Vietnam and what we, as Americans, VOLUNTARILY injected into people for "testing" purposes... with the help of a very popular American company. While he received funding from the Agent Orange producing Dow Chemical Company, the US Army, and Johnson & Johnson, Dr. Albert Kligman used prisoners as subjects in what was deemed "dermatological research". The dermatology aspect was testing out product the effects of Agent Orange on the skin. For the effects Agent Orange had on the Vietnamese during the Vietnam War, please click here (WARNING images in this article may be extremely disturbing, as they include extreme human deformation, including that of infants.) Needless to say the injecting of, or exposure to, dioxidin is beyond monstrous to voluntarily do to any human. Kligman, though, injected dioxidin (a main component of Agent Orange) into the prisoners to study its effects. What did happen was that the prisoners developed an eruption of chloracne (all that stuff from high school combined with blackheads and cysts and pustules that looked like the picture shown to the left) that develop on the cheeks, behind the ears, armpits, and the groin -- yes, the groin. Kligman was rumored to have injected 468 times the amount he was authorized to. Documentation of that effect has, wisely, not been distributed. The Army oversaw while Kligman continued to test out skin-burning chemicals to (in their words) "learn how the skin protects itself against chronic assault from toxic chemicals, the so-called hardening process" and test out many products whose effects were unknown at the time, but with the intent of figuring that out. During these proceedings, Kligman was reported to have said, "All I saw before me were acres of skin ... It was like a farmer seeing a fertile field for the first time."

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posted on Nov, 4 2012 @ 06:19 PM

8 Operation Paperclip While the Nuremberg trials were being conducted and the ethics and rights of humanity were under investigation, the U.S. was secretly taking in Nazi scientists and giving them American identities. Under Operation Paperclip, named so because of the paperclips used to attach the scientists' new profiles to their US personnel pages, N***s who had worked for in the infamous human experiments (which included surgically grafting twins to each other and making then conjoined, removing nerves from people's bodies without anesthetic, and testing explosion-effects on them) in Germany brought over their talents to work on a number of top secret projects for the US. Given then-President Truman’s anti-Nazi orders, the project was kept under wraps and the scientists received faked political biographies, allowing these monsters to live on not only American soil, but as free men. So while it was not direct experimentation, it was the U.S. taking some of the worst people in the world and giving them jobs here to do unknown, horrible experiments/research.

9 Infecting Puerto Rico With Cancer In 1931, Dr. Cornelius (that’s right, Cornelius) Rhoads was sponsored by the Rockefeller Institute to conduct experiments in Puerto Rico. He infected Puerto Rican citizens with cancer cells, presumably to study the effects. Thirteen of them died. What’s most striking is that the accusations stem from a note he allegedly wrote: "The Porto Ricans (sic) are the dirtiest, laziest, most degenerate and thievish race of men ever to inhabit this sphere... I have done my best to further the process of extermination by killing off eight and transplanting cancer into several more... All physicians take delight in the abuse and torture of the unfortunate subjects." A man that seems to be hell-bent on killing Puerto Rico through a cancer infestation would not seem a suitable candidate to be elected by the US to be in charge of chemical warfare projects and receive a seat on the United States Atomic Energy Commission, right? But that’s exactly what happened. He also became vice-president of the American Cancer Society. Any shocking documentation that would have happened during his chemical warfare period would probably have been destroyed by now.

10 Pentagon Treats Black Cancer Patients with Extreme Radiation In the 60’s, the Department of Defense performed a series of irradiation experiments on non-consenting, poor, African-American cancer patients. They were told they would be receiving treatment, but they weren’t told it would be the "Pentagon" type of treatment: meaning to study the effects of high level radiation on the human body. To avoid litigation, forms were signed only with initials so that the patients would have no way to get back at the government. In a similar case, Dr. Eugene Saenger, funded by the Defense Atomic Support Agency (fancy name), conducted the same procedure on the same type of patients. The poor, black Americans received about the same level of radiation as 7500 x-rays to their chest would, which caused intense pain, vomiting and bleeding from their nose and ears. At least 20 of the subjects died. 11 Operation Midnight Climax Here's a government experiment that, when you Google it, has completely different image results than web results. Operation Midnight Climax involved safe houses in New York and San Fransisco, built for the sole purpose to study '___' effects on non-consenting individuals. But in order to lure the individuals there, the CIA made these safe houses out to be, wait for it, Brothels. Prostitutes on the CIA payroll (yes, there was such a thing) lured "clients" back the houses. Instead of having sex with them, though, they dosed them with a number of substances, most famously '___'. This also involved extensive use of marijuana. The experiments were monitored behind a two-way mirror, kind of like a sick, twisted peep show. Furthermore, it's alleged that the officials who ran the experiments described them as..." it was fun, fun, fun. Where else could a red-blooded American boy lie, kill, cheat, steal, rape and pillage with the sanction and bidding of the All-highest?" The most horrifying part was the idea of dosing non-consenting adults with drugs they couldn't possibly know the effects of. Embedded is a video of a soldier talking about Operation Midnight Climax and his experiences with the C.I.A. and the U.S. Government.


Ok so since my last thread was removed here is one that doesnt mention you know who whom killed all those people since that seems to be taboo. Anyway the USA is just as guilty as the rest of the world when it comes to human rights violations and war. Which is what I was getting at with the last thread. Why does america act like it is the

posted on Nov, 4 2012 @ 06:19 PM
reply to post by lobotomizemecapin

Not the holy messiah?

The US government has led the World in crimes against humanity.

The only nation to actually use nuclear weapons and that on a civilian population, not once but twice.

The use of chemical weapons, agent orange and napalm on civilians, women and children.

Torture, false flag terrorism, the overthrow of entire nations, wars of aggression over lies...

One would have to be a mental patient to deny the US government's role in global terror.


Just one example with regards to your last thread.

During the Nuremberg trials, one of the most severe charges against the Germans was their intentional bombardment of dams. Less than a decade later, the US employed the exact same tactic against the Koreans.

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posted on Nov, 4 2012 @ 06:20 PM
cosmic compass of morality when the deeds committed by the USA are just as vile as the rest of the world

No killing is right
No wars are right

Anyway Feel free to add more I will be just wanted to get it going

posted on Nov, 4 2012 @ 06:22 PM
No, he's just a very naughty boy!!

posted on Nov, 4 2012 @ 06:23 PM
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The American Revolution

The Indian Wars

Shay's Rebellion
Anti-(state)Government Rebels vs. Massachusetts

The Whiskey Rebellion
Anti-Tax Rebels in Western Pennsylvania

Quasi-War With France
Inter-State (Naval) War

Fries's Rebellion "The Hot Water War"
Anti-Tax Rebels in Pennsylvania

The Barbary Wars
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The War of 1812
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Mexican-American War
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U.S. Slave Rebellions
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"Bleeding Kansas"
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Brown's Raid on Harper's Ferry
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U.S. Intervention in Hawaiian Revolution
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U.S. Intervention in Samoan Civil War
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U.S.-Philippine War
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Boxer Rebellion
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U.S. Intervention in Panamanian Revolution
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The Banana Wars
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U.S. Occupation of Vera Cruz
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News Story 1975 (May 15)
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posted on Nov, 4 2012 @ 06:25 PM

Originally posted by gladtobehere
reply to post by lobotomizemecapin

Not the holy messiah?

The US government has led the World in crimes against humanity.

The only nation to actually haves used nuclear weapons and that on a civilian population, not once but twice.

The use of chemical weapons, agent orange and napalm on civilians, women and children.

Torture, false flag terrorism, the overthrow of entire nations, wars of aggression over lies...

One would have to be a mental patient to deny the US government's role in global terror.

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I know right people in the USA think that their government is incapable of evil and is of pure heart and views the rest of the world as heathens

(comment is not of everyone in the US but of the majority that think this way. I know that many of you are not fooled by the wolf wearing sheeps clothing)
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posted on Nov, 4 2012 @ 06:27 PM
Well OP... You've done an outstanding job of showing America's faults and why we have problems in our own Human Rights. I don't recall anyone saying the Uncle Sammy Character walks on water, either.

Is there a major power in the world today that is better? I'm dying to hear our 'better' for human rights records and daily conduct for this area. Major power now....Apples to Apples.. Comparing the U.S. to Monaco or Tonga doesn't really count..

posted on Nov, 4 2012 @ 06:32 PM

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
Well OP... You've done an outstanding job of showing America's faults and why we have problems in our own Human Rights. I don't recall anyone saying the Uncle Sammy Character walks on water, either.

Is there a major power in the world today that is better? I'm dying to hear our 'better' for human rights records and daily conduct for this area. Major power now....Apples to Apples.. Comparing the U.S. to Monaco or Tonga doesn't really count..

I never said anything about the USA being the worst I am simply pointing out that the US is no better than the rest of the world.

I am sick of hearing about how we are so pure of mind and heart and that we never are at fault.

The saviours of the human race we are.

There are places in the world that are worse but my point is that the whole world is run by tyrants and the evils being committed by the US are just as heinous as those happening in china the middle east russia etc etc

posted on Nov, 4 2012 @ 06:43 PM
Must be a continuation of this thread:

The truth isn't allowed on ATS anymore.

Keep up the good work lobotomizemecapin!!!

posted on Nov, 4 2012 @ 06:51 PM
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You're right. You didn't say we were worse. I hadn't suggested you did. You have made a staggeringly long list of the litany of problems we have and have had over the last couple hundred years. No real context or commentary to match the pages and pages of examples to prove the singular point......but I must say the sheer collection of material makes for a powerful presentation.

What I'm asking though...if we are no better, that's one thing. It means no one else is either. We're equal, at best (which I don't personally agree with on being equal..but we never find THAT agreement, so I won't try) I'm just you see others that are better?

Perhaps I needed to ask that in a pure and sincere question, as you might honestly not consider anyone better and truly see all as about as good or bad as anyone else?

posted on Nov, 4 2012 @ 06:54 PM
Oh great an ATS favorite, USA bashing. Does all that dribble have a single.mention of Europe's.CENTURIES of.abuses and imperialism over the globe or is it just centered around a few decades of.the US doing Europe's.dirty work.

I mean if your wealthy want to send European kids to die for world security then by all means do so. You pay a third of the UN bills involving global security and stability, field several air craft carrier battle protect international shipping, send your kids to be target practice for insurgents so as to keep them busy and you deal with the back lash of taking over for Europe after WW 2 left it in no position to assert its influence on global markets.

You guys are on your feet again. You go back to killing eachother over flags and colonizing everyone you deem savages.

Go to it. Other wise lay off my country. If you had half a brain and spent half the time searching for the real leadership of the NWO you would find it comfortably resting in Europe where it was spawned in the first place.

"Oh lets jump on the US is evil band wagon and forget our own history and unavoidable future by habit."

See your history books about the next hundred years, I bet you wont skip a beat. This is Europes vacation time for world resource rape and people conquest.
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posted on Nov, 4 2012 @ 06:56 PM

Originally posted by lobotomizemecapin

I never said anything about the USA being the worst I am simply pointing out that the US is no better than the rest of the world.

In that case, I'm sure we all look forward to the next thread you make, point out the flaws of the next nation on your list... You do have a list, don't you?

posted on Nov, 4 2012 @ 06:57 PM

I am sick of hearing about how we are so pure of mind and heart and that we never are at fault. The saviours of the human race we are.
reply to post by lobotomizemecapin

I think you are just making this up. What you really want is to create a U.S.A. bashing thread. We have lots of those. I have been alive in the US for 54 years and have never heard anyone here say the things that you attribute to us.

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posted on Nov, 4 2012 @ 07:04 PM
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Look here darling, I don't care anymore. My government. Is none of your concern. Fix your own God forsaken countries before you critisize mine. Last I checked they are a freaking mess and full of corruption.

Glass house bub. Your crap stinks just as bad. Sweety.

posted on Nov, 4 2012 @ 07:11 PM
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I lived in your #hole country for 5 years so I have grounds to stand on while I speak, and listen kiddo, my country is as messed up as yours, it's just my country has killed many less people than yours has.

Let's stop pointing fingers, and admit there is a problem.

You know nothing about me, but I can tell a whole lot about you from your posts.

Be safe, and take care.

posted on Nov, 4 2012 @ 07:20 PM
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I can tell the same from your posts as well Mr valient internet "muck racker". Are you saying we killed more people recently because if there is a tally you have going then I would like to know how you missed several CENTURIES of theft murder and rape.

Oh but wait the problem is the US? I thought it was the criminal Bankers cabal Europe gifted the world? No the US did IT? INTERESTING. Missed that one.

I have lived in your crap hole of a continent for five years as well and can't wait to leave. Everyone is lazy and wants to get unemployment, have some immigrant work for them and then bitch about it, and generally talk out of their ass about their superior morals, all the while repeating the cycle of racist socialist rallying political support all over Europe. This time instead of Jews being the boogey men making everyone poor its the immigrants you need because no one wants to sacrifice and have kids anymore. Europeans just want nice cars and great vacations drinking coffee and beer in terraces talking BS about the last political party that"ruined" their already divided and corrupt countries.

So fix.your own houseand leave the US to Americans.

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posted on Nov, 4 2012 @ 07:56 PM
The genius of you Americans is that you never make clear-cut stupid moves, only complicated stupid moves which make the rest of us wonder at the possibility that we might be missing something.

Welcome to umerica.

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