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Originally posted by ModernAcademia
Originally posted by John_Rodger_Cornman
reply to post by ModernAcademia
What is their definition of socialism?
Govt. takes care of you
Many of them don't think or care where the money comes from
They don't understand it comes from the people, including low-income families
They don't understand that govt. has no money, it just takes it from the people
They don't understand the dangers associated with this
The reason socialism is coming in vogue again is because of the economic turmoil in this country. When things get bad the extremes on all sides take over. It happened in the Great Depression (with Communism and Fascism) and it's happening again. It will fade away and nothing will come of it.
Horrible news regarding the youth!
So what is the end result the absence of this many many small businesses around the country with many jobs everywhere due to it's decentralized nature? Well centralized monopolies with high prices due to next to no competition as we will increasingly see come true with lousy service.
Eventually you'll have super rich individuals owning their own competition giving the high-priced illusion of comepition.
Then the people will demand regulation and oversight!
Then companies will lobby and pay donations to certain political candidates and after they are elected they will have former execs from these big corporations being appointed to head of newly formed regulatory/oversight commitees, sometimes even being czars of said service/product.
Redistibution of wealth, where the REDISTIBRUTOR is the most corrupt and bought entity in the nation.
I can't believe what is happening, the continent is going insane!
Because both Canada and the U.S. is starting to have such young people.
Originally posted by Bluesma
Young people want to BE the government, they want to take part in it, they want to influence it. Living in a country that is more socialist than the US (it is capitalist, but on a sliding scale, in comparision...) that is what I see. A large percentage of my village are officially government employees- but they are the ones making choices everyday. The government is NOT a small handful of extremely rich men- nor one man viewed as responsible for every thing that happens in the country.
The government is regular people like me, and they make their decisions with experiencial knowledge of what it is like for us normal people and what our concerns are.
By the time they get older, they don't want that responsibility anymore, they'd rather just be concerned with themself and let someone else carry the responsibility and the blame.
Originally posted by coreytheconspirator
reply to post by ModernAcademia
i am 18 years old and i see that because of corporations country bordesr don't matter worth a crap and because of capitalism hotels in new york hike up there rates to make money off victims of a disaster. maybe im naive to American propaganda call it what you will but capitalism is not right. period.
Originally posted by Bluesma
The government is NOT a small handful of extremely rich men- nor one man viewed as responsible for every thing that happens in the country.
The government is regular people like me, and they make their decisions with experiencial knowledge of what it is like for us normal people and what our concerns are.
That is the idealistic dreams young people have- a government of the people, for the people.
Originally posted by Bluesma
Since many Americans will call Socialism at the drop of a hat, such a poll means nothing to me.
It could be
"Are you for public school at elementary level?"
"Yes"
*o-kkaay.... "for socialism"- check....."
Originally posted by randomname
as long as capitalists keep exploiting people to further accumulate wealth, people will be thrown to socialism.
case in point, warren buffet one of the top 3 richest men in history, pays is secretary $60,000 a year, because that's what he believes a secretary is worth.
the fact is, there is no law on what you can pay somebody and you can't base it on what they are doing either.
he could easily pay her $200,000 and change her family and her life for the better.
after you made your fortune, give back to the people who helped make it possible.
if absolutely no one worked for bill gates, no matter how much he offered in salary, microsoft wouldn't exist and he wouldn't be one of the richest people in the world.
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
reply to post by links234
Coal? Coal miners?? You really want to go there?
No, coal miner didn't fire themselves or get layed off by choice. It took that man following through on those statements and doing precisely what he said he'd do.......to so badly damage the Coal industry and those states that SO greatly depend on it. You don't even want to go into what post-election EPA planning looks like. This has been a nice 4 years for the Coal Miners.
By the way... You use the term Rich like it's profanity. Can you define that? I grossed over $200,000 a year when I owned my own truck. Was I rich? Farmers around here are sitting on millions in property, stock, animals and equipment taken together for family worth. it's not hard to accumulate. Are they rich? I hear that term..and it grates. badly. Rich is a term of class warfare, not describing a group of human beings. Not without definition anyway.
Originally posted by Mr Tranny
So, people want to get into the government so they can control everyone else that is in government, which is everyone else in the country. Everyone just constantly vying for control over everyone else. The entire population is there to serve the government and the people that work in the government.
It is living every day with everyone else’s nose stuck up your a$$.
That is a stagnated society. It is a living quagmire. It is how nations die.
Originally posted by Mr Tranny
Life is not fair. It never will be.
Do not dismiss the wisdom of your elders. They were not stupid. They went through the same social struggles you are going through. They also made the wrong choices and suffered the consequences. They learned their lesson and fixed their mistakes. Don’t look back and say that they were just heartless for what they finally done and ignore the lessons of the past. Don’t repeat their mistakes.
And if you think I have a cruel or insensitive view of the world…. Well, based on that old saying at the beginning of my post about the liberal/conservative, heart/brain thing. I guess I have no heart. Because I was never a liberal.