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Originally posted by Saucerwench
Here is one thing I find vexing about ufology. The Bigtime Expert Authorities are mostly people who'v had no experiences. Seems to me like that situation should be reversed.
Originally posted by DJW001
Ufology cannot die because it is already dead as a scientific discipline. I have been appalled by the complete lack of methodical investigation applied by MUFON, for example. And let's not even look at the hoaxes perpetrated by APIT! Notice how quickly this thread was swamped by discussion of extraterrestrials, confessions of belief and photos of crop circles enlisted as evidence. No-one with any scientific integrity wants to interfere with what has clearly become a religion. UFOs will always be with us, but no-one will be interested in figuring out if there is something to be learned by studying reports of them.
Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by ManInAsia
Simply put, how do you study beings that are smarter and better equipped than you if they don't want you to detect them or record them?
Why do you suppose intelligent beings even enter into the topic?
Reports of UFOs can be caused by many things.
But what if the UFO as in an advanced flying machine is more intelligent than us, and not just a little bit, but a factor of 100s to 1000s of times more intelligent. How do we study it if it doesn't want to be studied?
Simple concept.but it seems difficult for people to accept that this could be the case. Until we find intelligent beings/machines or they choose to openly reveal themselves. And then it's obvious.
I disagree. You would have to create a far more complex set of rules if you really believed it was a "soul" of some warrior of the past, his consciousness somehow manifesting outside of his body. What are you even talking about?
Is your quote to validate my argument? Is alien life impossible to you? Would Intelligent Alien Life be the more improbable? Ergo the truth of the matter?
More logical to assume life popped up in the universe before us, and MAYBE, just MAYBE... it wanted to travel through the galaxy and found another planet with life on it. You cannot assume to be omniscient nor omnipresent. So to argue about the validity of data that you havn't seen, is really quite ridiculous. Maybe it helps you sleep at night to quell the idea that other life may have evolved in the billions of years before our own birth.
I agree that you must eliminate all other possibilities. But really, it is case to case dependant. I.E some cases are more extreme and leave little room for denial of intelligently controlled objects witnessed from earth. Do you look at the stars much? I never used to spend a lot of time doing it, but after my experience I've taken to looking constantly at the sky to try and collect more data.
I meant intelligent alien life that is potentially in earths vicinity. It has nothing to do with ghosts or optical illusions.
By the way, are you of the opinion that life does not exist elsewhere? And that there is no possible method for consciousness to travel vast distances at high speeds? Obviously you cannot answer, and I think you should not have formed an opinion that negates the possibility. (More so because we are late-comers to the galactic scene).
Don't get me wrong, While I may have no way to logically deny the possibility that alien life could be visiting earth, I do not "believe it"... It's just that I have to consider all possibilities and be prepared. And it all stems from an experience with some "UFO" that defied my human perceptions.