Ohio: Romney Draws 30,000, Obama Draws 2800

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posted on Nov, 4 2012 @ 01:08 AM
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Originally posted by muse7
You just cannot have an intelligent discussion with these people.

As soon as you show them a poll, that does not have Romney ahead by 10+ points then it must be from some marxist/commie organization.


Come on
Romney
Y do you do that

Because ?
At this event
Before the election
Y dont you quit the race right now





posted on Nov, 4 2012 @ 01:10 AM
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And you know what they say....

Whoever wins Ohio wins the federal erection!!



posted on Nov, 4 2012 @ 01:11 AM
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Actually, it has come to my attention that you can not have a decent political conversation with people anymore in a civil way. People are so polorized to one side or the other and there is so much BS and useless emotion being put into things that it typically degrades into name calling and saying things like "those people" etc while speculating on hidden agendas.

I simply pointed out the article that the OP might have gotten his figures from and you all commenced to get your panties in a bundle.

Frankly in the scheme of things, I don't give a crap who wins because Romney is too moderate to really fix anything, Obama is incompetent and no one else stands a chance of winning numerically. We either get Romney and 4 years of him not doing what he promised conservatives he would do, or Obama and 4 more years of him putting appearing on talk shows ahead of real jobs, the economy and American lives.

They both suck.



posted on Nov, 4 2012 @ 01:18 AM
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Yeah, CNN has, a bunch. Especially since zionist Wolf Blitzer came in,.



















posted on Nov, 4 2012 @ 01:19 AM
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I would have voted for Romney even though I dislike his past, the way he avoided the military, how he preyed on companies, and even his ties to Panamanian banks. The problems with his plans are that he will not tell us what they are.

When they said Obamacare had to be passed to see what’s in it I was against it now Romney says we have to elect him before he tells us his plans. I just do not trust someone that says trust me.

If he had been forthcoming on specifics I would have overlooked his record on flip-flopping if his plans were realistic but all I have heard are how tax breaks and deregulation are going to create jobs and I do not believe in trickle-down economics not after the last 20 years of trying them.

Bush was a businessman as well. If you really think about it those two have a lot in common.
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posted on Nov, 4 2012 @ 01:23 AM
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Wolf Blitzer
Dana Bash
Gloria Burger

all the same and many many more
wonder why i always see them on CNN
most biased anchors ever .. they really went hard on Ron Paul

it will be the republican faults if they loose
next time dont riggue the GOP convention and ignore all the RP delegates
by unfairly selecting Romney .. you have given Obama 4 more yrs
Ron Paul would have probably won against Obama

now we only have 2 choice .. Romney and Obama
thats actualy very easy .. to easy



posted on Nov, 4 2012 @ 01:23 AM
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I think CNN has started playing nice with Romney because it IS such a close election and they do not want to basically be shut out for the next 4 years if Romney wins.

It seems like a simple prudent business decision and frankly it is very telling on what they think potentially could be the outcome of the election.



posted on Nov, 4 2012 @ 01:23 AM
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Originally posted by hououinkyouma
reply to post by CALGARIAN
 


I don`t know if a third party will have a major role in 2016, they are not growing that much yet.


Only if Romney losses which will cause the GOP to split otherwise it will be business as usual.


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Originally posted by muse7
I also kept hearing that people were leaving in the middle of one of Romney's rallies, I guess most of them were just there for the Kid Rock concert


Now that is a concert I would go too. Who cares who it is in support of.
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posted on Nov, 4 2012 @ 01:26 AM
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Originally posted by Grimpachi

Originally posted by hououinkyouma
reply to post by CALGARIAN
 


I don`t know if a third party will have a major role in 2016, they are not growing that much yet.


Only if Romney losses which will cause the GOP to split otherwise it will be business as usual.


I agree with you fully here.

If Romney loses, there will be a SOLID third party in 2016 (this is an ATS prediction that actually has the traction it needs to come true!)



posted on Nov, 4 2012 @ 01:33 AM
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I don`t think Ron Paul would stand a chance against Obama. Regular people would never vote for him, and without support from the media you are nothing in politics today.



posted on Nov, 4 2012 @ 01:36 AM
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Originally posted by Grimpachi
I would have voted for Romney even though I dislike his past, the way he avoided the military, how he preyed on companies, and even his ties to Panamanian banks. The problems with his plans are that he will not tell us what they are.

When they said Obamacare had to be passed to see what’s in it I was against it now Romney says we have to elect him before he tells us his plans. I just do not trust someone that says trust me.

If he had been forthcoming on specifics I would have overlooked his record on flip-flopping if his plans were realistic but all I have heard are how tax breaks and deregulation are going to create jobs and I do not believe in trickle-down economics not after the last 20 years of trying them.

Bush was a businessman as well. If you really think about it those two have a lot in common.
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Let me humbly ask then why did Obama get elected just by saying "Hope and Change"?

By using those words, people were able to just infer what he was going to do and not look at the specifics.

Now?

Everyone wants not just specifics, but bullet-point powerpoint presentations or it isn't valid.



posted on Nov, 4 2012 @ 01:54 AM
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I have to disagree on this issue and I hope you are not assuming I voted for him last election.

I never bought into the hope and change many people did but the facts were both him and McCain had close race until the end and neither were incumbents. They both went into some detail on their plans and we had an idea of where they stood. IMO Sarah Palin sunk McCain. I always vote military over non veteran but she downright scared me. Let’s face it McCain is old and even though he looked a lot better then but he still looked frail. It was a gamble that she wouldn’t be in charge of the country and the gamble was McCain’s health. My own father who hasn’t voted democrat in 40 years or more voted Obama for that reason. She killed his chances.



posted on Nov, 4 2012 @ 01:57 AM
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Originally posted by hououinkyouma
reply to post by Ben81
 


I don`t think Ron Paul would stand a chance against Obama. Regular people would never vote for him, and without support from the media you are nothing in politics today.


Yes i know sadly .. i was so hoping to see him going against Obama
was actualy voting for the republican just for RP
now that he is out .. thanks to the GOP convention speakers for ignoring all his delegates
im 100% endorsing Obama

Ron Paul will never endorse Romney like he said
but will also not say he will vote for Obama
obviously he will need to vote between the 2
who do you think he will vote for.. certainly not for Romney
and all his supporters to will vote for Obama before voting for Romney
they have all read between the lines not to vote for Romney .. ever

how many Ron Paul supporters here ?
how many of you made the switch for the democrates ?
because Ron Paul clearly stated that he will NEVER endorse Romney
they got the message !



posted on Nov, 4 2012 @ 02:01 AM
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I wasn't singling you out, it's just that you brought up the point about specifics and I just wanted to posit the question as to why there appeared to be a change towards specifics this time around.

Cheers



posted on Nov, 4 2012 @ 02:29 AM
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There are several issues for me setting aside my disdain for Romney I will list a few.

1. Renewable energy which I believe is essential to our future .

2. Healthcare issue (Repeal and replace doesn’t work for me Replace then repeal would have worked for me)

3. Foreign policy ( the aggressive stance with the world I do not believe in Iran just announced they are halting enrichment at 20% so sanctions are taking effect)

4. Military (being a veteran I know how much waste goes on and the military wants more SF and less ships, Tanks, and fighters that we don’t use and so forth)

5. The privatization of foreign aid, FEMA, and national security I am against.

6. The proposed tax cuts from Romney’s plan I just cannot get behind the math does not balance out (lack of details) it may have produced short term gain but I see it as disastrous in the future.

There I left out the personal issues I have with Romney but the issues I just listed were my top reasons behind my decision. I am not really looking for change this time but at the policies that are currently ongoing. Especially the first one I listed which Romney has made clear that it is not part of his plans or at least it was that way last time I heard him speak on it.
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posted on Nov, 4 2012 @ 05:59 AM
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Obama's supporters watch...




posted on Nov, 4 2012 @ 06:52 AM
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Originally posted by Ben81

Originally posted by hououinkyouma
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I don`t think Ron Paul would stand a chance against Obama. Regular people would never vote for him, and without support from the media you are nothing in politics today.


Yes i know sadly .. i was so hoping to see him going against Obama
was actualy voting for the republican just for RP
now that he is out .. thanks to the GOP convention speakers for ignoring all his delegates
im 100% endorsing Obama

Ron Paul will never endorse Romney like he said
but will also not say he will vote for Obama
obviously he will need to vote between the 2
who do you think he will vote for.. certainly not for Romney
and all his supporters to will vote for Obama before voting for Romney
they have all read between the lines not to vote for Romney .. ever

how many Ron Paul supporters here ?
how many of you made the switch for the democrates ?
because Ron Paul clearly stated that he will NEVER endorse Romney
they got the message !



I am a Ron Paul supporter. I am still voting for him by writing him in. I don't care if it doesn't count, I just can't vote for the other two.



posted on Nov, 4 2012 @ 08:10 AM
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You should invite himto Canada,,,,we dont want him here and he CANNOT create jobs,,thats idiocracy..he has never created jobs before,,,,,,,,NOT EVER



posted on Nov, 4 2012 @ 08:11 AM
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I second all of what they just said !



posted on Nov, 4 2012 @ 08:14 AM
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I can't comprehend how this race can even be close. Unless the fact that George Soros company wrote the software for this election. Reports of Romney votes going to Obama are making it look like a fixed election.





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