posted on Nov, 4 2012 @ 09:30 AM
Originally posted by TKDRL
reply to post by badgerprints
Yeah, that sounds good to me right there. I was picturing the chain gang stuff. All that chain gang stuff really does, is make sure the convicts are
ripped when they get out
I think the labor they do should be at least in part punitive in nature for the majority of the day. Then after they have completed their penalty
(penitentiary) labor - we could have trade schools and GED programs available. However, I am wholly against the criminals getting rehabilitated and
educated in lieu of paying a penalty be it in labor or restitution. Most adults in America have to work a job to support themselves while they take
classes or pursue a trade on time they don't spend doing some menial job to pay their bills. Prisoners should do no less.
Originally posted by TKDRL
I have hired "ex cons" when business was really really booming, and we got behind schedual badly due to injuries/illness. They were people that were
trying their damndest to turn their life around, despite the uphill battle they faced. I met them through volunteering at places, where they were also
volunteering to get some experience under their belts. They never did no wrong by me, the houses we worked in there was ample chance to, and some
valuable stuff. Even I have been tempted before, just one or two pieces of artwork, sell them off and move to south america rich as hell But
seriously, they busted their asses almost as hard as I did, and that is saying something. I hope learning a trade helped them out in getting their
I can vouch for one thing there are those who want to turn around their lives and can live in society and those who can't. I got a cheap deal on a
house one time, bought it sight unseen over the internet before a PCS move in the Army. Found out later that it was cheap because it was located next
door to a half-way house for parolees.
For the most part the people seemed to be rough men who had made bad choices. They had jobs (menial back breaking physical type jobs that others
wouldn't do). They'd sit outside on Sundays and listen to NASCAR since none of them could afford cable, and cook hotdogs on the grill. They
listened to the radio a little loud and got a little rowdy after some beers but I never complained to the cops. I'd figured they worked hard labor
they deserved to whoop it up a little. I'd say hi to them and howdy and such, other than that I never really said much to them nor they to me until
after we had a yard sale. It was obvious to me that these guys needed some furniture and I gave them a couch some chairs and a kitchen table that I
didn't sell. After that - I never feared leaving my wife at home alone again. They'd offer to do things for me, help me carry large items into the
house and stuff like that. I’d give them some clothes and used things every now and again as we replaced household items, toasters, coffee makers,
I once set some large wooden boxes I got from a furniture delivery outside for a friend to pick up. I hear a knock at the door and its one of the
guys from the house another one had my friend in the truck with a baseball bat confronted about taking the boxes - he said he saw him taking them and
wanted to make sure it was ok.
I think that just by treating them like any other neighbor I was "ok" in their book and not only would they not take anything to do anything to our
property they actually protected it.
I do think; however, that there are some people who are not fit to live in society and in those cases after many repetitive trips to the penitentiary
we should just put them down for their own sake and that of our tax bills.