A question for Christians, if the Lord’s in the bible were interchangeable between God and Satan how would it change your thoughts on the bible?

I’m not saying this is the case but I feel it’s a possibility

This is a genuine question for everyone, before I knew God was without a shadow of a doubt real in every sense, I struggled trying to understand/connect to the description of God in the old testament, I knew in my heart that if God was real he would love us all equally and that just wasn’t reflected in the OT.

Even back then I was asking the wrong question, which was ‘’why would god let all these bad things happen’’, I never even once questioned whether or not the Devil was real, once I saw the evil works happening that I’d never noticed before I decided that the way we’ve been manipulated was very very clever and could only be the work of the Devil, but at least this also meant that I finally saw that God was real too,

I’m not expecting everyone to agree with me but it would be interesting to see how it would change you’re opinion if it, i would also like to point out that i am very new to the bible so i still have so much to learn, but this issue became a stumbling block for a while as it just didn't fit right with me

i'm reading the authorised king james version of the bible so i'm aware that different names may be applied for God, and in the version i'm reading there are so many, and i'm beginning to think that the 'lord of hosts' and 'the god of israel' are the titles i need to be wary of but i'm still trying to figure it out

let me know you're take on this,

thank you for reading

Satan may not be God, but he clearly has the power of a God or semi-god. Enough power to cause God eternal problems. The bible does strongly hint at the fact they are the same entity though, or two sides of the same entity.

Originally posted by Minnie1985
A question for Christians, if the Lord’s in the bible were interchangeable between God and Satan how would it change your thoughts on the bible?

I’m not saying this is the case but I feel it’s a possibility

This is a genuine question for everyone, before I knew God was without a shadow of a doubt real in every sense, I struggled trying to understand/connect to the description of God in the old testament, I knew in my heart that if God was real he would love us all equally and that just wasn’t reflected in the OT.

Even back then I was asking the wrong question, which was ‘’why would god let all these bad things happen’’, I never even once questioned whether or not the Devil was real, once I saw the evil works happening that I’d never noticed before I decided that the way we’ve been manipulated was very very clever and could only be the work of the Devil, but at least this also meant that I finally saw that God was real too,

I’m not expecting everyone to agree with me but it would be interesting to see how it would change you’re opinion if it, i would also like to point out that i am very new to the bible so i still have so much to learn, but this issue became a stumbling block for a while as it just didn't fit right with me

i'm reading the authorised king james version of the bible so i'm aware that different names may be applied for God, and in the version i'm reading there are so many, and i'm beginning to think that the 'lord of hosts' and 'the god of israel' are the titles i need to be wary of but i'm still trying to figure it out

let me know you're take on this,

I highly doubt that you can say anything to "change" my thoughts on God nor the bible. I believe that God is real, and that Satan is real, and that they are two DIFFERENT beings! Better to leave the bible alone than misconstrue it's intent.

Originally posted by ChaoticOrder
The bible does strongly hint at the fact they are the same entity though, or two sides of the same entity.

It doesn't.
I could give some bible verses that show otherwise, but honestly, if you wanted them you'd have looked for them and you'd have found them and you wouldn't have misled whoever's gullible enough to take you at your word.

Originally posted by Minnie1985
A question for Christians, if the Lord’s in the bible were interchangeable between God and Satan how would it change your thoughts on the bible?

This is like "What if we call roses lilies?" Doesn't really change anything.

I’m not saying this is the case but I feel it’s a possibility

No, one is subject to the other. Satan doesn't run around doing what he wants, he only does what God tells him he can do- and there's a purpose to all these things.

This is a genuine question for everyone, before I knew God was without a shadow of a doubt real in every sense, I struggled trying to understand/connect to the description of God in the old testament, I knew in my heart that if God was real he would love us all equally and that just wasn’t reflected in the OT.

He does love us all. If you're unfamiliar with the bible, then just look at the world around you- it's all a bunch of analogues designed to help you understand what is happening to you. Look at the family unit for such an analogue. Mother and Father make a baby. Baby starts out ignorant and confused, needing to be taught understanding and how to act. You can't just let baby grow up running around doing whatever his ignorant little mind wants to do. Every once in a while you have to say STOP THAT RIGHT NOW! That scares baby but in time he'll be an adult and you'll be able to stop doing these things and he'll have his own life, and act like he's got some sense.

That's what's going on. You look in the OT and see God often going STOP THAT NOW! and sometimes the kid gets a whoopin. This is just how it must be in order to bring the kid into adulthood. The wrath can ramp up here, but God's dealing with an entire creation that He's bringing into being and sometimes you just need to lay down THE LAW in order to make sure the kids don't end up killing each other when they grow up.

In the end, everyone is going to be just fine- most Christians are just horrifically misunderstanding the concepts of "hell" and "judgment" and such things, but suffice it to say in the end, everyone is grown up, the "terrible twos" are over with and done, and we all get to live in peace with one another because of these things we are being taught. And typically kids may hate their parents while they're in the "I'm ignorant and know everything; dad is a loser who doesn't understand me, whaaaaa" but in time that kid grows up and looks back and goes "sheesh what an idiot I was back then"; same thing here.

Death itself is the final smack in the proverbial arse, and then it's all good; and believe you me when it's all over God is going to sit back and go FINALLY the kid is alright. Now get out of my house and go zip around the universe and have inifinite fun. Trust God, He's explaining this to you if you just sit down and listen: you don't have to listen- but He's saying, if you don't then you're still getting born and it's going to seem horrifying, and there's nothing I can do about that because that's just what happens when you're coming into being and not listening to me telling you what's going on- if you listen to me then this will be WAY easier because you'll know and understand that there is NOTHING TO FEAR.

People fear birth as much as death. But once you're born- it's over, you're finally you, and you'll be going "hey that wasn't so bad at all; and it all went by so fast."

Originally posted by Minnie1985
A question for Christians, if the Lord’s in the bible were interchangeable between God and Satan how would it change your thoughts on the bible?

I’m not saying this is the case but I feel it’s a possibility

This is a genuine question for everyone, before I knew God was without a shadow of a doubt real in every sense, I struggled trying to understand/connect to the description of God in the old testament, I knew in my heart that if God was real he would love us all equally and that just wasn’t reflected in the OT.

Even back then I was asking the wrong question, which was ‘’why would god let all these bad things happen’’, I never even once questioned whether or not the Devil was real, once I saw the evil works happening that I’d never noticed before I decided that the way we’ve been manipulated was very very clever and could only be the work of the Devil, but at least this also meant that I finally saw that God was real too,

I’m not expecting everyone to agree with me but it would be interesting to see how it would change you’re opinion if it, i would also like to point out that i am very new to the bible so i still have so much to learn, but this issue became a stumbling block for a while as it just didn't fit right with me

i'm reading the authorised king james version of the bible so i'm aware that different names may be applied for God, and in the version i'm reading there are so many, and i'm beginning to think that the 'lord of hosts' and 'the god of israel' are the titles i need to be wary of but i'm still trying to figure it out

let me know you're take on this,

thank you for reading

Satan is a deceiver. He deceived and his intent is ill will, to do harmful things. God is the opposite. He's good, loving, and wants the best for his children. So when you say "interchange" I have no clue what you're talking about because if they were interchanged Satan wouldn't even create men. He's not about that kind of thing. He wants to destroy people.

People have this false believe that God is only loving, but the God of the bible can get mad too. He's slow to anger but if he gets angry then he could pour out his wrath. So there's that side of him as well.

Also as far as God/satan. It's too different things. Satan is an ex-arch angel which is simply a created life force, no different than you or I. Where God is so different. Like God is a life force so to speak, but an energy force so to speak as well. He's shown us he has a personality, but also he's inside everything. He's omni present, so my thought is he's inside every single atom there is. He's not bound by time or space like satan or us.

As for the bible I do like the KJV but if you're just learning I seriously recommend just like a modern translation. Like the NIV. That will help you to understand the concepts far far more easier as it's in a modern language.

There is no satan...and disobedient children (little monsters) get berated...the story 'grows' in magnitude...a convenient scapegoat is created to divert personal responsibility...

...just grow up...God wants you to...

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God wants nothing. It is man who 'wants', it is man who expects and it is man who speaks for God when God never spoke a word.

This moment of presence is God made - it is the Immaculate Conception - conceived by God. This moment of presence is untouched by the mark of the beast until man lays words upon it. Prior to conception (words and ideas) 'this' is sacred. When words are placed over (veiled) the sacredness, the purity of Gods glory is desecrated.

Right now what is appearing is scared and divine, it is nameless/unspeakable, it appears wordlessly. Then words appear to name the unnamable, these words decieve.

He disarmed the rulers and authorities and put them to open shame, by triumphing over them in him. 
Colossians 2:15
Seems that there was plenty of evil in the leadership responsible for putting Jesus to death without a Satan.
The universe as it exists is difficult by nature which leads a lot of people into doing things bad out of a misplaced sense of survival.
Is it somehow God's fault that the universe is not like an eternal mother carrying us on her hip while letting us constantly nurse (Isaiah 66:11-13) ?
I think we are all responsible for making it become better, we who live in this universe and who were the ones who wanted it so badly, then complaining that it is not so great as we had hoped, and finding persons who we can blame for everything bad about it.