Ron Paul: FEMA Causes More Harm than Good - FBN's Stossel 11/02/2012

He makes alot of great points
And when people are pro-Fema nobody talks about insurance
Alot of times these are the same people who say "rich people need to pay their fair share"

Well it seems if you are pro-FEMA then perhaps you actually mean poor people need to finance rich people who want to be living large!!!

There's really not enough people talking about the real issues and the real issues in detail.

Everyone is brainwashed, even many that consider themselves "Awake"

He made no good points at all. Its the same tired ramblings hes always done. Paul, as usual, has no idea what hes talking about.
Oh and buy gold!

Yeah, I mean, who cares if people don't have insurance, that's THEIR problem, they should just go homeless or rely on some unreliable charity.

The government is BEST for disaster relief, the private industry runs on PROFITS, not helping people.

Ron Paul is an elite shill just like the rest of them. No clue how that guy had a successful cult of personality around him.

Yea, that crazy old Uncle Ron! How dare he even suggest freedom for all! What a commie that man must be to want to take away power from the few and redistribute it amongst the many!

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The freedom for the poor and middle class to roll over and die if their house, food, water sources is destroyed in a natural disaster.

Boy America really would be a great place if that kind of policies were in place.

If you want that kind of "freedom", go to Somolia.

That video doesn't really explain Ron Paul's position on FEMA very well, but this excerpt does:

Ron Paul: Tornado Victims Should not get Federal Aid

Victims of disasters should get any and all help possible, and there is virtually no limit to the generosity and compassion of good American people after devastation hits. One only need to remember the outpouring after Katrina to know this is true. FEMA, however, did more to get in the way of relief than to actually provide and facilitate it. The examples are numerous. When the call was put out for volunteer firefighters, they volunteered by the thousands. It was FEMA, for reasons of control and bureaucratic ineptitude, who made sure they were not, in fact allowed to actually help. When a group of firefighters arrived from Houston, instead of being put immediately on the job, they were told to sit around and wait. After waiting for two days doing nothing, they were simply sent home. One thousand volunteer firefighters were sent to Atlanta to undergo sexual harassment training while fires actively raged in the city. The ones that remained through this stupidity were sent to escort the president around or to distribute fliers instead of putting out fires. Computer engineer Jack Harrison was told his skills were needed to rebuild technological infrastructure. After being given the runaround for about two weeks, he was misallocated as head of security on the cruise ship FEMA had leased, when he should have been using his skills to help. All manner of help was turned away or mismanaged by FEMA while people suffered and waited. Even the Red Cross had its hands tied by FEMA.

Here he makes a lot of good points. If you don't understand the fact that our Government is NOT efficient with the money it is given by the tax payers, then you will never understand why someone is opposed to Government interference in many situations such as this.

That is not to say that it's impossible for 'a' Government to be useful in the midst of a disaster, it's just that 'our' Government and the people who run it are extremely inefficient in doing so. They are bankrupting us with their mismanagement. I know it makes them sound like heroes when they send FEMA in to help disaster victims, but you won't see the media report on all the harm they are actually doing, and how much better the situation could have been handled had it been handled by someone who is not part of the horrific bureaucracy in this country.

Free market could probably get there faster than fema. "but we neeeeed femaah!" And even with fema there are gas shortages, dumpster diving, and looting, so fema failed.

And the free market includes Iran wanting to help, but the feds said no, so anyone dissing ron paul as an elitist better also be mad at the government for refusing foreign aid, what's the difference? You want relief aid, just not from Iran? Isn't that racist and also hypocritical because you say ron paul wants the poor to suffer, just like the federal government!

People in need should get help. However if you build a million dollar house on the coast you should not expect America to pay to rebuild it when the inevitable storm destroys it. Build off a flood plain or expect to rebuild with your own money. I am not talking about inland floods. The New Jersey coast homes were owned by millionaires. They can afford to pay to rebuild them. Insuring those homes is insane economics. FEMA was already 18 billion in the hole before Sandy came.

Here is an article about fema running out of water
www.infowars.com...

Fema wouldn't let us down, would they? I mean they stocked up on coffins, they must be prepared for the worst right


So, what's so great about fema? What's halfway good about fema?

Originally posted by InfamousRebel
reply to post by ajay59

 

The freedom for the poor and middle class to roll over and die if their house, food, water sources is destroyed in a natural disaster.

Boy America really would be a great place if that kind of policies were in place.

If you want that kind of "freedom", go to Somolia.

edit on 3-11-2012 by InfamousRebel because: (no reason given)

Perhaps it is you who should go to Somalia as it seems to be you who is against the founding principles of this nation. America stands for freedom, a concept which people like you scoff at!

Originally posted by InfamousRebel
reply to post by ajay59

 

The freedom for the poor and middle class to roll over and die if their house, food, water sources is destroyed in a natural disaster.

Boy America really would be a great place if that kind of policies were in place.

If you want that kind of "freedom", go to Somolia.

edit on 3-11-2012 by InfamousRebel because: (no reason given)

One need not go to Somalia. Katrina was FEMA's best work, LOL ! Those poor bastards are still
screwed after seven years. Yeah FEMA is doing some outstanding work. Formed in 1979 they fear mongered the Three Mile Island nuclear accident, 89 San Francisco earthquake and Hurricane Hugo their collective ineptness and bungling enraged both victims and locale officials.
Originally FEMA was under the control of the National Security Council to direct " The Continuity of Government. It slowly morphed into the worthless agency it currently is under the leadership of DHS ( The peoples worst enemy ) Brzezinski was and still is a key player in the formulation of both agencies policies . Brzezinski , if you are not aware, is a bad guy. However, prior to 1979
I assume you believe the poor and middle class rolled over and died ? Fema PREVENTED the immediately available locale help from accessing the area via road blocks. FEMA takes all control away from locale government. The City and State of NY are more then capable of dealing with there current issues. Hell Bloomberg could write a ck himself. I feel you are either poorly informed or simply disagree with the Constitution and or ANYTHING RP says.

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You should go read some literature written by the founding fathers.

I'm sure you're very upset they enslaved us with a government mandated post office.